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Old July 13th, 2012, 10:35 AM
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It shouldn't be that way. Something must be wrong. I only have experience with OME springs but if all four springs are HD and installed correctly it should sit much higher in the rear due to the engine weight in the front IF you are are unloaded in the rear. OME HD springs are made for a constant load of something like 450lbs in the rear at all times (then it would be level). Probably similar with LR. I currently have HD springs in front for engine and winch weight but MD springs in the rear and it still sits higher in the rear.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 10:44 AM
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When I dis genuine hd springs in my 110 it sat higher in the front. I think it settled though. Let me find a pic.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 11:42 AM
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Strange. Do LR springs sag more than other springs? I still don't get why it would sit higher in the front. Are the coils different between front and rear?
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Old July 13th, 2012, 11:43 AM
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Front and rear are different.

Here is a picture right after I did it and this truck had a winch.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 12:42 PM
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my experience is that you should use HD if you are going to have constant weight on the springs.

Say a winch and winch bumper

winch 80 lbs
winch bumper 130 lbs

don just trying to be funny usings Ronnies vernacular

guess it wasnt funy

barry nice truck man that is alot of weight on those rims

what tires?
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Old July 13th, 2012, 01:06 PM
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I replaced the springs because when I put the tires on with the original very badly sagging springs they almost touched the arches. There are some pics in there that show the difference.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 03:31 PM
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my experience is that you should use HD if you are going to have constant weight on the springs.

Say a winch and winch bumper

winch 80 lbs
winch bumper 130 lbs

don just trying to be funny usings Ronnies vernacular

guess it wasnt funy

barry nice truck man that is alot of weight on those rims

what tires?
Nah, it was really funny once I knew what you guys where talking about. I really thought it was the way the spring coil ended - like vertical cut or horizontal. Searching google came up with nothing which confused me even more. Just me being too literal.

Agree on the HD comment - I know when I took my bumper/winch (wench, haha) off for a week or 2 - the front end came up a bit. But I think a pic and measurements will help. Might be just a little off - or could be pretty messed up.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 04:38 PM
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Was your dog in the back? haha, jk



Could it maybe be his roof rack or something?

Ronnie, post a photo if you can.
hahaha!!!!
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Old July 13th, 2012, 05:59 PM
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I just put this same set up on my NAS 110, LR HD springs and Bilstein shocks. I bought the combo deal from Rovers North. The truck now sits about 1.0 to 1.5 inches higher but is dead level. I have the stock bumper and wench.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 08:28 PM
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I put the same kit from RN on my 90sw and it is definitely higher in the front. Truthfully I think they are just giving out springs for a one size fits all and it doesn't work. I do have a roof rack so maybe it is one the ones with a rack.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 09:19 PM
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On my old '95 soft top which I ran the badger half cab top and no rear roll cage or seat, when I installed the same setup sat low in the back. I ended up installing 1 inch spacers in the rear to give the truck the proper rake IMHO.
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Old July 14th, 2012, 09:47 AM
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I'm wondering if a non heavy duty shock would eradicate the problem. Do they even make a genuine LR spring non HD?
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I'm wondering if a non heavy duty shock would eradicate the problem. Do they even make a genuine LR spring non HD?
They make regular duty and HD springs. I don't think bilstein makes a HD shock. The Bilsteins work with both springs
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Old July 15th, 2012, 08:58 AM
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I'm wondering if a non heavy duty shock would eradicate the problem. Do they even make a genuine LR spring non HD?
Shocks won't make any difference to ride height ... They only regulate the speed at which the springs compress and extend ... Without shocks you'd bounce down the road uncontrollably.

I thought you were going to add spacers on the back? Did you do it and it's still wrong?
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Ronnie do you have your old springs still? I'd try to put the front ones back in and see if it makes a difference. I know the HD ones need a constant weight on them to make them ride nice. You only have a slightly heavier front bumper and that's it so that could be effecting the ride height. If you had a diesel and heavy bumper and winch I bet it would lower the front down and inch.
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Old July 15th, 2012, 10:14 AM
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Shocks won't make any difference to ride height ... They only regulate the speed at which the springs compress and extend ... Without shocks you'd bounce down the road uncontrollably.

I thought you were going to add spacers on the back? Did you do it and it's still wrong?
Understand, I realize the springs is what will lift the truck. I'm going to put these on as soon as I have time to drop the truck off at the mechanic.
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Old July 15th, 2012, 10:16 AM
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Ronnie do you have your old springs still? I'd try to put the front ones back in and see if it makes a difference. I know the HD ones need a constant weight on them to make them ride nice. You only have a slightly heavier front bumper and that's it so that could be effecting the ride height. If you had a diesel and heavy bumper and winch I bet it would lower the front down and inch.

I wish I still had the fronts, they are long gone.

------ Follow up post added July 15th, 2012 10:17 AM ------

Defender 90 Heavy Duty
Perfect for vehicles running factory tire sizes with a moderate appointment of off-road equipment – not exceeding manufacturer’s gross vehicle weight. Includes four Bilstein shocks and four Genuine Land Rover heavy duty springs. Will raise vehicle approximately 1 inch. Great on-road, good off-road. Includes 4 Bilstein shocks & Genuine LR springs.

So I thought, 1 inch would follow all around, not just the front. I'm a bit disappointed. Lets see how the spacers work.
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Old July 15th, 2012, 12:55 PM
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Moderate appointment means winch I assume. The spacers will jack up the rear like a wacky racer special!!! ;-)

Just kidding ... It will be fine!
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