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Old May 28th, 2016, 01:47 AM
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Just curious why a couple of you are suggesting KM2s in a size that were hard to find up until recently and still may be? I'd suggest getting a brand and size that is easy to get in your country. If you blow a tire out think about the ease of getting a replacement. I've been to Africa and many people use brands of tires that aren't common here in the US and there's probably a reason for that.
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Old May 28th, 2016, 02:09 AM
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My vote is 255/85-16 KM2 Tall- skinny awesome
These are the cats meow if you wheel a stock/semistock defender. They come in at just over 33 (x10.5 if I remember correctly). I ran them for a while and loved them for all around use on and off the road. Click image for larger version

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Old May 28th, 2016, 03:40 AM
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I'm not convinced I'd change the OD on a Td5-110. Especially if you are running at altitude. Purely for straight line performance.
So that leaves the 265/75 or 235/85 as your choice.
Given your location, it might be a matter of what's available helps make the final decision. If not, and you like the way 265/75 looks and drives, stick with it.
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Old May 28th, 2016, 05:59 AM
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Just back from the tire place and here's what my options are:

BFG KO2 265/75R16 (D)
BFG KO2 235/85R16 (E)

They have the 265s in the shop. The 235s are in the warehouse and coming Monday. I'm leaning towards the 235s because they're $70 cheaper each and I'm buying 5 tires. Here in Kenya these cost usd $300/tire.

As long as my on-road driving won't be sketchy with the 235s I think they'll be a good choice. Less expensive, 10-ply and people here seem to like tall/skinny tires. The paved roads are trashed here and I rarely top 80-100 kilometers/hr on the highway. The TD5 don't like going much faster than that anyway.

Sound good?
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Old May 28th, 2016, 06:09 AM
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Given the roads I'd second the 235's because of the E load range/ply rating too. They will likely stand up a little better to your conditions.
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Old May 28th, 2016, 06:23 AM
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The 235's are 31.5" tall same as the 255's.
The MT's are taller in the same width's.

Stick with the E rated tires. I'm running my 3rd set now, always get over 40K miles on them.
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The 235's are 31.5" tall same as the 255's.
The MT's are taller in the same width's.

Stick with the E rated tires. I'm running my 3rd set now, always get over 40K miles on them.
235/86-16's are not the same as 255/85-16's. Being a MT has noting to do with how tall a tire is. Actual outside diameter will differ between brands.
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Old May 30th, 2016, 01:33 AM
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You say you have mud. You say mud is your primary concern. You also ask which size is best off road.

KO2 tread is the worst tire I've ever been in mud with. Worst! Enough said.

255 85 16 is better off road than 235 85 16. But, the 235 is probably better all round considering handling, power, price and availability. Definitely go MT like KM2 or Toyo open road MT.

------ Follow up post added May 29th, 2016 10:34 PM ------

Open Country MT, not open road.
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What tires are other people running in your area?
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Old May 31st, 2016, 04:52 AM
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Hi Portis.
Look at all the safari companies here in Kenya.

7.50x16

Cost effective and very good in any terrain. Pirelli Kenya has Dunlops 7.5x16 16ply !!!. They last for ever and you wont get a puncture. Believe me i have tried them. They were originally shipped in for the Kenya army to go to Somalia. Now every one wants them. Not cheap though at 18 000Ksh. (180 USD)

Yes they dont look cool compared to wide tires but are a lot better.
Land Rover paid well studied engineers a lot of money to determine the best tire size for the vehicle. 7.5x16.
It always amazes me when some backyard mechanic changes the size claiming out of a gut feeling that a bigger tire was the better size.
I could go on and on and on about tires and i am happy to have this conversation with you about it if interested. But i dont think this is the right place.

For now keep in mind that you need a certain amount of air in your tire to sustain the weight of the car and give you a comfortable ride. A 7.5x16 does exactly that.

You increase the size of the tire means you increase the amount of air.
Therefore you would have to run on a lower tire pressure to get the same comfort.
But the tire wont be happy as it gets a lot warmer and experiences a lot more stress in the casing. So it wont last very long.
Or you run it at the standard recommended pressure to save the tire but your ride will be hard and uncomfortable.
Most people in the real world dont notice because the roads are good. Here in Kenya you will notice straight away.
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Yes they dont look cool compared to wide tires but are a lot better.
Land Rover paid lawyers, accountants and well studied engineers a lot of money to determine the best tire size for the vehicle. 7.5x16.
It always amazes me when some backyard mechanic changes the size claiming out of a gut feeling that a bigger tire was the better size.


There, fixed it for you.
The tires that a vehicle manufacture chooses to mount on a vehicle are rarely chosen for their off road performance. I can tell you however, after a 15 year career in the agriculture business where I was "off road" the majority of every day that your blanket statement about "backyard mechanics" and "gut feelings" on whether an oversized tire works better or not is wrong.

When I am running in a citrus grove on the sand ridge here in Florida in my Ford F-150 on 33x12.5 inch tires in 2wd and I pass another F-150 that is buried to the frame with his stock 31x9.5 tires it is NOT a gut feeling that a tire with a larger foot print (lower psi) performs far better than a skinny tire in sandy loamy conditions. There are also conditions where a skinny tire works better.

If the OP has little or no experience in off-roading and what tires do and don't work best for the conditions and type of terrain he will be operating his vehicle in then he needs to look at type of tire the guys in his area are using.
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Old May 31st, 2016, 10:40 AM
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Firstly i totally agree with you.

This is why i said i could talk tire sizez and pressures all day and night.

But i dont think Portis is very interested in that.
He drives around in Kenya and i live in Kenya running a safari company.
So i think a have a bit of a clue what works for him.

I also told him to look what others here are using.
And yes you are right manufacterers do not always choose whats best but whats cheapest and still acceptable.
However i cannot think of another manufacterer putting 7.5x16 on their cars. Simply because they wouldnt sell the car. Event LR went 235/85 a while ago simply for the looks.

7.5x16 is a very high profile tire for a car anyway. So when you hit the sand you deflate them and get a very big foot print and they still dont pop off the rim.
In mud or black cotton soil (there is plenty around here) you run on full pressure and they cut their way through. Plus you still got some steering.

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Old May 31st, 2016, 11:48 AM
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Thank you for all your help with choosing tires for my Defender! Here's a photo my 2001 TD5 with the new tires today. I chose BFG KO2s 235/85 E rated.
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Old May 31st, 2016, 11:54 AM
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here's the photo
Looks great. Rhodesian ridgeback's and all.
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Hi Portis
Where are you based?
Just in case you want to talk Land Rovers or anything else Kenya face to face.
Come for a beer.
We are on Champagne Ridge overlooking the Rift about 20 Miles south of NBI.
Wildlife+views+holiday home.so you can stay overnight.
Dogs welcome
Look up The Castle on facebook
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Great looking truck!
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