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Old April 14th, 2010, 12:48 AM
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Best rattle can paint over galvanized parts

Since my 90 is down for 'maintenance', I took off the bumpers and sliders and had them sandblasted and are at the galvy place now--they won't stay silver since I like the black look with my white truck. Since I use my truck off road, everything gets scratched so I like using rattle cans since I can touch them up more (in theory...). I have used Krylon and Rustoleum but never on galvanized metal--do any of you have recommendations of a rattlecan based paint that adheres and lasts well?
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Do you know a good rattle can etching primer?
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I prefer the Rustoluem Hammerite paint. Goes over anything and is pretty tough.
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Do you know a good rattle can etching primer?
try AutoZone for the "Rust-Oleum / 12 oz. Self-Etching primer

I have had very good results with this.
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As for durable paint, Ive had good luck with the Rustoleum hard hat/industrial.
Jeff; where do you find this? Does it come in rattle cans?

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try AutoZone for the "Rust-Oleum / 12 oz. Self-Etching primer

I have had very good results with this.
Tom: Lame question; this is different then the regular Rustoleum automotive primer you find at the auto chain stores??
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Thanks for the tips, gents!
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Stock up on cans of paint... Paint has a bad habit of peeling off galvanized material after a short period of time even with the best primer. I've had to paint my bumper several times this year alone, I hope that you have better luck than me.
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Thats what I am trying to avoid...peeling paint
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paints and primers

try eastwoods online . they have everything and ship it out same day.
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Home Depot sells it. I think they have changed the name to 'Professional'. It comes in 15 oz spray cans.

-Jeff
correct on that, also "self etching primer" bites into the metal and provides a good surface for your top coat paint. I say AutoZone becouse this is were I buy it...
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On galvanized surfaces, there isn't really anything that will stay long term. There's just no way to have an oxide free surface to paint on. If you have to have black, don't get the stuff dipped. Epoxy paint over POR-15 is about as good as you'll get for hard paint.
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So for you guys that are dipping door frames and B-pillars, what are you using to paint those?
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If you have to have black, don't get the stuff dipped. Epoxy paint over POR-15 is about as good as you'll get for hard paint.
I fail to understand why no one believes me that you can get professionally done high quality powder coat over hot dipped galvanized parts.

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I fail to understand why no one believes me that you can get professionally done high quality powder coat over hot dipped galvanized parts.

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but powder coating is not for me.
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x2 and if you choose to spray it, buy additional cans... you are going to need it


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On galvanized surfaces, there isn't really anything that will stay long term. There's just no way to have an oxide free surface to paint on. If you have to have black, don't get the stuff dipped. Epoxy paint over POR-15 is about as good as you'll get for hard paint.
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Most high quality decorative fences are powder coated black over galvanized steel, but those are static parts. I ditto powder coat coating is not for me. Besides why spend the added money to power coat after you galvanize... unless you expect the powder coat to crack/fail. I just keep buying cans of paint for my bumper... I call it stimulating the economy
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Any point of even using a primer on galv? I might just rattle can it straight if it doesn't really matter.

Just found a pdf on painting produced by the American Gavanizing Association--has some interesting info.

http://www.galvanizeit.org/images/up...PaintGuide.pdf

Also, from Rustoleum's site:
Q Which product should I use to paint galvanized steel?
A Use a water-based acrylic, including products offered in the Painter’s Touch and American Accents product lines. You may also use Aluminum Primer.

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Q Can aerosol paints be applied to galvanized metal?
A Yes, if Aluminum Primer is used as a base coat and allowed to dry for 24 hours before applying aerosols. Most all of our spray paints are oil-based enamels. If applied directly to galvanized metal without the primer, the oil in the paint will react.
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Just leave it "rover chrome".

People say you can paint over galvy and some very well respected shops do (ie ECR), but I won't believe it really works until I see pictures 5-10 years down the road and it is not flaking.

There is a product called galvagrip

http://www.madisonchemical.com/pdf_t...%2008%2022.pdf

which is supposed to work ....
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I should be picking up my parts hopefully today--I spoke again with the Rustoleum hot line folks--they seem to really know their biz. I asked them about using their self etching primer and they said absolutely not--it will end up flaking/peeling as it is an oil based primer. That is a major no-no. Water based primers only on galv steel. They do not make an aerosol version, only the brush on (not that a water based one does not exist). FYI. I'll probably just thin the brush on and spray it if I can't find an aerosol primer.
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