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Old May 3rd, 2014, 09:50 AM
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Best oil filter for 3.5 V8?

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My oil pressure light came on the other day, as I was pulling into the garage. My driveway is pretty steep & I come in at a good angle, so I figured that may be the cause. Shut the engine down, checked the oil level. Read a tad high, but real clean.

I started it again yesterday & drove around the block- no oil light (except briefly at startup). Did some research. Turns out I had better pull the oil pan & make sure the oil pickup pipe/screen are clean & tight. Do I still need to check this, even though it seemed fine last time?

Sounds like Valvoline VR1 20W50 is the best oil to use?

What is the best filter?

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P.S. Yes, I searched & Googled.
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What oil is in it now?

I always just use a Genuine filter, but I'm there's probably something better out there.
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What oil is in it now?
Mobil Super 10W40.

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I always just use a Genuine filter, but I'm there's probably something better out there.
No dealer here. Is the 3.9/4.0/4.6 filter the same as the 3.5? I can look it up if so.
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There are two genuine filters a short and a long. With filters I'm of the impression bigger is better. No idea on aftermarket but Wix/Napa Gold, Bosch,Purolator, Mann, Fram are all readily available. Tdi's and V8's all use the same filters.
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Tom/Antichrist posted a big study on all the major oil filters a while back-either here or dweb...


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NAPA1452 is the big one, NAPA1068 is the smaller of the two. WIX has the same part number.
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Thanks guys. Is Valvoline VR1 20W50 the best oil to use?
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My guess is that your oil light came on because of the weight oil you are using. Your engine probably has a good bit of wear and could use a thicker oil such as 20w50.
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My guess is that your oil light came on because of the weight oil you are using. Your engine probably has a good bit of wear and could use a thicker oil such as 20w50.
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I have always had good luck with the Napa/Wix. I would never use a fram to many cases of them causing oil pressure issues.

I use 15w40 shell Rotella
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Paul,

Was your idle really low? At very low idle the light will come on especially when the oil is hot (and thin because of that). Another thing to check is to smell the oil and see if it smells like gasoline (from a leaking carb). That will thin it out and cause low pressure too. Check these before pulling the oil pan and cleaning the pick up. If you do pull the pan, replace the cross seals too.

I use genuine oil filters and 5w40 rotella in my rover engines these days.
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If you do pull the pan, replace the cross seals too.
That sounds kind of risky to me since you could disturb an otherwise non leaking rear main seal.
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That sounds kind of risky to me since you could disturb an otherwise non leaking rear main seal.
A Rover whisperer who works at a dealership in VA other than Richmond told me these old rear main seals hardly ever leak...it's always the crucifixes!



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A Rover whisperer who works at a dealership in VA other than Richmond told me these old rear main seals hardly ever leak...it's always the crucifixes!



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I believe that, but to replace them you have to remove the rear main bearing cap which could easily disturb the rear main seal. Unless it was a very bad leak, I wouldn't mess with them personally.
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I believe that, but to replace them you have to remove the rear main bearing cap which could easily disturb the rear main seal. Unless it was a very bad leak, I wouldn't mess with them personally.
Wuss. I have never crawled under a 20 year old rover and not seen a cross seal leak (unless they were replaced) and I have yet to see an actual rear main leak.
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Swap out the oil pressure sender first and see if the problem goes away. It's a cheap part readily available.
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Swap out the oil pressure sender first and see if the problem goes away. It's a cheap part readily available.
and always leaking
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