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Old February 4th, 2016, 08:37 PM
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Best A-Frame Ball joint for 4" Lift ?

Hello,

I have a 4" lift on my 2000 TD5 90. I would like to replace the A-Frame ball joint with an angle friendly one. Any recommendations? Perhaps this:

ANR1799 | A Frame ball joint - Paddock Spares

Also, the best A-frame Ball joint for my stock height 2000 Defender 90. (Any thoughts on the adjustable ones to tighten as they wear?)

TRE76RS | Heavy Duty Adjustable A Frame Ball Joint - DEFENDER - Paddock Spares

I will be putting an order through Paddocks, lots of options. Thanks!
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Old February 4th, 2016, 08:44 PM
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You need one of these: http://www.rte-fab.com/products?page...category_id=16

A special joint is not the answer. I assume you have changed bump stops, shock mounts, brake lines and propshaft? 4" really measures up the geometry of the links.
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Old February 4th, 2016, 08:55 PM
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That's a nice piece. Do I combo that with the 45* Fulcrum bracket?

And yes I have 2.5 remotes +mounts, trailing arms, shafts etc... But nothing has been done for the a-frame!
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Unless you're running 16" or greater travel shocks shouldn't need an aftermarket ball joint -- the factory setup offers more than enough misalignment. Just get those upper links flattened out with the RTE bracket so you don't eat your frame side bushings alive.

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Sounds good.
Take a look at this lovely unit, Looks like it could be the flattening combo :

Wildbear A Frame Joint - BA7611 - Range Rover Classic - Qt Services
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Sounds good.
Take a look at this lovely unit, Looks like it could be the flattening combo :

Wildbear A Frame Joint - BA7611 - Range Rover Classic - Qt Services
Looks unsealed and those wear out and become sloppy.
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Sounds good. Take a look at this lovely unit, Looks like it could be the flattening combo : Wildbear A Frame Joint - BA7611 - Range Rover Classic - Qt Services
That's what I ran with my 5" lift. Great piece of kit.
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I'll get the a-Arm corrected from one of those two options; RTE or Wildbear.

While I have you guys here. I need advice for the front.
Shock towers, 4" springs, remote shocks, brakes lines in place. And Looks like a disco II Prop shaft.

Nothing has been done for the castor angle. Has Stock radius arms.
What do you recommend? Radius arms? correct Swivel? (You can be specific, brands.. degrees etc, and I don't mind ordering from the UK)

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I run a similar lift, RTE front radius arms and RTE rear trailing arms. They are both incredibly stout, heavy and quite indestructible. You'll need DC shafts front and rear. At 4", you're running a driveshaft angle of 20+ degrees, which is pretty extreme for single-cardan shafts. I don't even think the stock driveshafts can articulate beyond around 23 degrees without binding (bad) Don't worry about castor angle in the front. The only thing that you should care about in the front is that the pinion is perfectly parallel to the front DC driveshaft (that is, pointing directly in line with the driveshaft) At 4" lift, your rear suspension has literally zero droop with the stock driveshaft. The stock rear ball joint simply runs out of articulation within a degree of your lifted ride height. If you run a rear DC shaft, you gain back 18 degrees of articulation in the stock ball joint by rotating the pinion upwards. Therefore, if you run DC in the rear, you don't necessarily need the A-Arm extension. The advantage of the A-Arm extension is that it increases the maximum droop in the rear. If you run 18" rear stocks and Rockware hoops, your rear axle can drop a significant amount. So, to summarize, No DC shaft: A-Arm Extension necessary. DC Shaft: A-Arm Extension not necessary, but does buy you additional droop. (please correct me if I'm wrong about anything)
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Rotated swivel ball is the best solution.
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