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Old December 28th, 2011, 03:17 PM
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Bead breaking and manual mounting

I know that you can get a hundred buck chinese tire tool, but it appears to be nothing more than a pipe that you can bolt to the floor. I am wondering if anyone has made their own using an actual Rover hub? It would seem the simplest thing to do. Thinking of re purposing an old Series hub for this.
Also, is there a good portable bead breaker that is liked more than another? Think that something that hooks to the bumper would be good. I can fab up something, but if I can save a little time...
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Old December 28th, 2011, 03:20 PM
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Wallmart will dismount any tire for $3.00 a tire you can bring them a loose wheel. They will also mount and balance for $15 (the one near me has a hunter road force machine)


No help on the manual gear tho
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Old December 28th, 2011, 03:31 PM
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Well, I'm talking about actually breaking the bead, taking the tire off the wheel, installing a tire and inflating. Not using a shop.


I wonder if there's a way to make some sort of bead breaker thing for a Hi Lift jack?
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bead breaking yes with a hi lift

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Old December 28th, 2011, 04:44 PM
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bead breaking yes with a hi lift

from youtube
that doesn't seem like the safest idea ever!
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Old December 28th, 2011, 09:15 PM
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Overland Journal had a write about the different tools last year sometime. I will see if I can find it.
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Bill:

I *believe* the poor mans bead breaker is on a deflated tire, lay it flat on the ground and put a wood plank on the sidewall like a ramp. Then literally drive up on it, which should apply pressure and break the bead.

Note: I've seen it done, but it's been years and I think this is all the steps.
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Old December 28th, 2011, 11:13 PM
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I've used the hi-lift for bead braking quite a few times I usually put a plank under the hi-lift right next to the rim to spread the load a bit. Works like a charm.

I got nothin special on the mounting/dismounting end of it. All I got are the old fashion tire spoons. That gets to be a workout when you're doing a set of 4.
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I know a few people have found decent old Coates machines and the like for fairly short money. Then you can do all your tires with it.
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It really depends upon what tire and rim that you have. All of the aftermarket rim dismount equipment I have tried is junk and only works on smaller tires and rims, if that. The above methods are tried and true and work in a pinch. I have also used a bottle jack which seemed a little more manageable. You can buy a pair of tire spoons from Harbor Freight or Northern. I also have a very large pry bar available. The technique is to work around the tire with the spoons while keeping the first spoon held down all the time. Two sets of hands work well with this. Always lube up the bead so that you do not damage it. Installing is opposite of the install but usually you can muscle the first bead on by hand. Some tires have very strong beads, like Michelin's, and are very hard to hand mount. Also a trick to re-seat the tire beads, once on the rim, is to use a ratchet strap in the center of the tread to get the beads closer to the rim edge.
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don't you have a tractor with a loader? Down pressure + bucket edge = popped bead.
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I would suggest getting the chinese one first and modding it. They are around $60 and you can't build it for that. You then need to strengthen the bead breaker and get a heavier pipe for the lever. Once that is done it works fine. I've done a dozen sets using this system.

If you have space, pick up a used tire machine. Them come up less than $500 all the time. But you need space.

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bead breaking yes with a hi lift
I'm guessing you have not tried this on a genuine LR rim. The beads on Rover rims are crazy hard to break. Aftermarket rims are simple. I've had more than one 110 off the ground using this method and not broken the bead. I built an adapter for the bottom of the Hi-Lift to break beads. It still is difficult on Rover rims.
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