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Old March 17th, 2008, 09:45 AM
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Badger II questions/ pic request

I'm looking at getting back into a D90, and the first thing i'd be looking to do this time around is replace the top. Naturally I am looking at Badger, and I rather like the idea of the Badger II, but being in California, I think the gutter kit may be overkill, so I am thinking the Badger II with fabric seals would suit me best. I was wondering if any of you have the Badger II with the fabric seals, and if so, any chance I could get pictures of how the sides roll? Does the seal roll up with sides, or does it detach somehow, or what? I can't picture how it would work.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 11:30 AM
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I have it. It is currently off the truck at the moment because it is going to be a very nice week here.
The door seals are removable by velcro. You simply pull them off, and roll it up. It only takes seconds to put them on and off. Inside the door seal is a flat aluminum bar, that holds it straight and tight.

If the top was on the truck, I could take some pics.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 01:12 PM
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I have it. It is currently off the truck at the moment because it is going to be a very nice week here.
The door seals are removable by velcro. You simply pull them off, and roll it up. It only takes seconds to put them on and off. Inside the door seal is a flat aluminum bar, that holds it straight and tight.

If the top was on the truck, I could take some pics.
no worries, i appreciate the reply regardless. I take it the velcro holds tight enough? Also, does that flat aluminum bar bolt down to the capping at all as to secure the seal in place (like the metal bar that the factory top uses to secure the seal behind the windows), or is it just sort of there to stiffen it?
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Old March 17th, 2008, 01:20 PM
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It actually wedges behind the bar that goes over the door (the one with the snaps) and is held very secure there. The flat aluminum takes the place of the part that bolts to the capping.
It is a great system. I didn't want to have to remove all that extra door equipment when I wanted to go without a top, so that is why I chose to not get the gutter kit.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 01:22 PM
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It actually wedges behind the bar that goes over the door (the one with the snaps) and is held very secure there. The flat aluminum takes the place of the part that bolts to the capping.
It is a great system. I didn't want to have to remove all that extra door equipment when I wanted to go without a top, so that is why I chose to not get the gutter kit.
that's exactly why i don't want the gutter kit.

Surely Badger has worked together a nice system, I was just curious how it all worked.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 02:04 PM
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The upright stiffener should rest on the outside of that horizontal bar so it does not push the upright seal in.

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Old March 17th, 2008, 02:23 PM
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that top is the shit, best top by far.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 02:55 PM
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I didn't want to have to remove all that extra door equipment when I wanted to go without a top, so that is why I chose to not get the gutter kit.
I just assumed people left the gutter kit on when running without a top... Is there any issues with doing that?
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Old March 17th, 2008, 03:22 PM
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"that top is the shit, best top by far".

Well I wouldn't put it that way. Bestop ruined that phrase. I always say "it is the ultimate top".

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I just assumed people left the gutter kit on when running without a top... Is there any issues with doing that?
i leave my gutter kit on with the top off. No issues at all. You just have to like the galvi look since you'll have a good bit showing. See pic below.
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Good pic.. Tyler -- Really off subject, but where did you get those nets in the back?
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The upright stiffener should rest on the outside of that horizontal bar so it does not push the upright seal in.

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I don't suppose you have any pictures?
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Good pic.. Tyler -- Really off subject, but where did you get those nets in the back?
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i leave my gutter kit on with the top off. No issues at all. You just have to like the galvi look since you'll have a good bit showing. See pic below.
It's a good look against the Arles Blue. I went with the black powdercoating.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 09:01 PM
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Same topic - Fabric door seals on a Badger II. Any opinions on sound and water? I am sure the gutter kit is better against water, but how are the FDS for noise and do they keep most water out?

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i leave my gutter kit on with the top off. No issues at all. You just have to like the galvi look since you'll have a good bit showing. See pic below.
like the truck! good taste in color I must say.
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Same topic, how do the fabric door seals compare to the original bestop? I am tired of having to drape a towel on my lap when it rains.
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I leave my gutter kit on when it is topless. I elected to get it powder coated when I purchased it from Chris. The powder coating let's the kit blend in with the black roll bars. It would be nice though if I had a piece of aluminum made to hold the gutter in the roll bar so I could take the vertical bar off, but if I did that then I would need to remove the door seals. To me though the gutter doesn't take away from the looks of the truck so no need to remove IMHO.
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