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Old April 22nd, 2010, 12:54 PM
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Badger I with Gutter Kit Removal

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I tried using Badgercoachworks' website for the instructions, but it's either my browser is bad or his links are broken. Anyone have a PDF of instructions for the Badger I with gutter kit removal instructions? I'm not necessarily stuck, it's just that the PO had black silicone around the inside to seal it up a bit better, and I'm not sure if the top also came with some sealed spots between the GK and the top.

The PO said he included instructions, but I have been unable to locate. Searched badger's threads on here and he's never posted instructions as a new thread or anything. I search his posts now and see if I see anything, but if anyone has a PDF, shoot it to me please!

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Old April 22nd, 2010, 01:17 PM
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You sure its not Rhinolined to the truck?
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 01:23 PM
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 01:26 PM
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I have the same top and there is no adhesive holding it to the truck. Should just be held with the straps on the gutter system and the front rail from your pic.
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Joshua,

The GK clicks in place on the roll cage/top of windshield then bolts to the tub next to the door. If need be call Chris I'm sure he will have no problem talking you through the process. If not I can take pic's for you? 'O' by the way - nice truck!
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 01:35 PM
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What he said. there's no sealant used on the Badger tops. Honestly to sure where one would use it. There should be three web straps that loop around a metal bar and Velcro back on them selves. And the front has a plastic strip that fits in the grove on the header bar on top of the windshield.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 01:41 PM
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Thanks guys. Yeah, my confusion is mostly due to what the PO did then at the door horizontals (pics attached). Trying to remove the top, but it's attached to the GK horizontals.
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Hey Josh, X3 no goo or silcone...i just installed my gutter kit a few days ago. I phoned Chris and he was going to send me instructions. a bit late but if i get them i will PDF them for ya.

Also, can someone / anyone...take pics of what hardware the web straps loop around on the inside of the gutter kit? i just had 3 square holes. thanks...

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Alright thanks! The black silicone sealed so well it felt as if the top's horizontal was bolted to the GK horizontal at the doors. Finally just cut a strip down the silicone and slid a screw driver in between to separate them. Pics attached. As you can see it didn't exactly come off without taking some of the paint or powdercoat with it though.
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She's officially topless! And yes that's an extension chord out of my apt to the computer so that I can be on D-90 while I'm doing this.
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Thanks guys. Yeah, my confusion is mostly due to what the PO did then at the door horizontals (pics attached). Trying to remove the top, but it's attached to the GK horizontals.
I meant "Yeah, my confusion is mostly due to what the PO did then at the vertical part of the GK. Trying to remove the top, but it's attached to the GK vertical section."

Pretty much any time I said horizontal I really meant vertical. oops.
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Very Nice! love the NY backdrop!!!

Please, take a quick pic of the inside of your gutter kit where the velcro sraps loop around.

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What is that plate on the inside of your rear door?
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Alright thanks! The black silicone sealed so well it felt as if the top's horizontal was bolted to the GK horizontal at the doors. Finally just cut a strip down the silicone and slid a screw driver in between to separate them. Pics attached. As you can see it didn't exactly come off without taking some of the paint or powdercoat with it though.
I am confused, did the previous owner feed the top into the gutter kit and then coat it with silicon to make it stay?
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WTF then it started raining 10 minutes after I got the top off and went for a drive.
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looks like a mount for a sub? Glad to see you ended up with a nice truck josh. Even with the scandalous application of silicone on a perfectly good badger top
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I am confused, did the previous owner feed the top into the gutter kit and then coat it with silicon to make it stay?
OK thank you now this is actually making sense. I was looking at how he had it set up and I was wondering how on earth people could be happy with the design, because it looked like the way he had it, when I cut the silicone, water and air would just enter the cabin.

What he actually did was run the badger's top along the outside of the Gk down the vertical part, and then sealed the two together with the silicon. What he should have actually done is run it through the inside of the GK down the side, and then seal up and leaking areas (if any).

This was why I was so confused guys!

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looks like a mount for a sub? Glad to see you ended up with a nice truck josh. Even with the scandalous application of silicone on a perfectly good badger top
Yeah I talked to the PO today about some stuff and he said he usually just exacto-knifed the silicone when he took the top off during the summers and then re-applied for seal permanence in the winter.
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Alright thanks! The black silicone sealed so well it felt as if the top's horizontal was bolted to the GK horizontal at the doors. Finally just cut a strip down the silicone and slid a screw driver in between to separate them. Pics attached. As you can see it didn't exactly come off without taking some of the paint or powdercoat with it though.
It looks like the PO glued the top to the outside of the vertical plate (the one the paint pealed off) of the GK. On mine, you slip the top behind this vertical plate so you can see the exposed plate from the outside of the truck and the top will not catch the wind when you are driving. Does that make sense?

Sorry, you beat me to the post.
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