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Old March 5th, 2013, 01:32 PM
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From Chicago area to Pennsylvania I hope
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Old March 5th, 2013, 03:56 PM
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If you don't mind telling us, who is going to do the work?
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Old March 5th, 2013, 04:05 PM
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PA - i would say Doctor Trevor. =)
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Old March 5th, 2013, 04:14 PM
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My guess is Ron.
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Old March 5th, 2013, 04:35 PM
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My guess is Ron.
If he wanted it to take 10 years, then that would make sense.

I am not in the business at all, but if it is going to Trevor, he made a great choice.
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Old March 5th, 2013, 04:36 PM
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For Greg,

Similar boat..I bought the truck fixed from someone else's fire...via Dale. Starting with a 110NAS to me sort of forces one's hand. My truck is called "Oates" in the registry.

Best of luck on your project.

Here is the short version of my truck's story:


Start (burned out 90)

Current.

Current.

Planned Final Product...sort of. Mine will be NAS with cage, terrafirma bumpers and other armor, etc. But tan. ON 33" tires with a 2" lift.






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Old March 5th, 2013, 04:49 PM
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Wow can't wait to see it finished.
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Old March 5th, 2013, 04:51 PM
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After it gets there I will reveal. Still machinations with the insurance company but they have already recognized value per the adjustor.
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Old March 5th, 2013, 05:00 PM
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Why have we not set up a civil suit against LRNA yet?
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Old March 6th, 2013, 05:57 AM
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There are tons of places out East here who do some amazing work. If I were you, I wouldn't just look at East Coast Rover (ECR), as I've seen nicer work done for considerably less by members on this forum who specialize in such things...they just don't post every single photo of what they do, like ecr does.
LOL. Thats pretty good right there.

I've only had a couple of burnt 110's in. One of those had just come from an east coast custom rover shop, probably 10yrs ago and I suspect was the reason said shop went into the custom aftermarket oil cooler line business.

Personally I prefer the standard lines, thermo sleeved, and replaced every 5 yrs or so......and no I dont have photos.
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new expansion complete. Not only are we the only Rover shop in Eliot Maine...now we're also the biggest.

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Why have we not set up a civil suit against LRNA yet?
Have you seen the movie Fight Club? LR applied "the formula".
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Why have we not set up a civil suit against LRNA yet?
Probably because the lines weren't defective--they just got old and cracked. Would you sue LRNA if you were still running 1994 tires on your truck and one got a flat and you wrecked?
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Old March 6th, 2013, 12:23 PM
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It's more of a routing, location, and materials-used issue, than JUST age...reasons why this issue has been popping up year after year on these trucks since they were in their infancy in the US market. Oil cooler lines are a rather obscure part to any common driver, and not as known as say tires when you get into consumables on a vehicle.
And yes, based on materials used and production practices, there was this little case against a tire company called Firestone and another company called Ford back in the day...
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Old March 6th, 2013, 12:45 PM
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Probably because the lines weren't defective--they just got old and cracked. Would you sue LRNA if you were still running 1994 tires on your truck and one got a flat and you wrecked?
The 93-93 NAS Workshop Manual says to check the tires every 7500 miles or 6 months, whichever is less. It also includes an additional blurb about weekly tire "maintenance inspection" checks. Thinking LRNA is adequately covered for tires. However, there is no mention inspecting or replacing the oil lines. Hydraulic lines and fuel and emission hoses are covered including the replacement of all hydraulic seals and flexible hoses every 37,500 miles or 3 years, whichever is less. Perhaps there was a subsequent addendum for the oil lines that LRNA issued that I don't have.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 02:21 PM
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It's more of a routing, location, and materials-used issue, than JUST age...reasons why this issue has been popping up year after year on these trucks since they were in their infancy in the US market. Oil cooler lines are a rather obscure part to any common driver, and not as known as say tires when you get into consumables on a vehicle.
And yes, based on materials used and production practices, there was this little case against a tire company called Firestone and another company called Ford back in the day...
Agreed. With the number of rovers that have lines that failed and resulted in fires the bad press alone would set them in a settlement posture. I think they should at least pay everyone for a set of new steel braided lines.

Mine blew in 2002 with only about 80k on the vehicle. Sorry but that just shouldnt happen on a modern vehicle. And when they did get reports of it they should have issued a recall.

Lots of liability for LRNA.

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Old March 6th, 2013, 02:42 PM
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Agreed. With the number of rovers that have lines that failed and resulted in fires the bad press alone would set them in a settlement posture. I think they should at least pay everyone for a set of new steel braided lines.

Mine blew in 2002 with only about 80k on the vehicle. Sorry but that just shouldnt happen on a modern vehicle. And when they did get reports of it they should have issued a recall.

Lots of liability for LRNA.

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Refer back to my previous post in this thread (#58), which indicates that LRNA is not aware of this problem. Does anyone know for certain that they have been made aware?
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Old March 6th, 2013, 02:51 PM
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I removed the oil lines on my 94 NAS 90 @ 32k. I only used synthetic in the truck so oil breakdown due to heat was never a consideration. Thats was around 2002 so it was already a known issue.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 03:18 PM
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Refer back to my previous post in this thread (#58), which indicates that LRNA is not aware of this problem. Does anyone know for certain that they have been made aware?
Its not if they do know, its if they should know. And, speaking from personal experience I took mine to a LR dealer afterward and the manager there said that was the third he had seen burned in the same area. If one dealership knows about 3 fires in the same type of vehicle its a good bet that many of them know. If many of your dealerships know about a very specific fire hazard in a very specific vehicle, its something LRNA should know, whether they actually did or not.
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You can report safety failures to the NTSB (or some government entity). This got lotus to recall its oil cooler lines (which dumped oil on the road creating hazardous conditions).
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Old March 6th, 2013, 03:58 PM
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Why not band together and do a class action lawsuit with all the fire victims?
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