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Old August 16th, 2017, 10:13 PM
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Back up camera question

Never installed one before. If mounted over by the license plate is it of any use lining up a trailer hitch ? If mounted down low in the center of the crossmember would the step bumper and
large spare cut into the field of view ? looking for suggestions.
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Old August 16th, 2017, 10:57 PM
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depends on focal length, which varies by camera model. the ones on amazon usually advertise the viewing angle in degrees. beware that some cameras exaggerate the viewing angles, or don't take sensor crop into account. it's a minefield out there!
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Old August 16th, 2017, 11:58 PM
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I don't know about back up camaeras, but I have to say I'm having a "What the..." moment.
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Old August 17th, 2017, 05:53 AM
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Old August 17th, 2017, 06:15 AM
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Put it over by the license plate, as I'm guessing you'd prefer it there, as there'd be the ease of mounting, wiring, and eventual scar-less removal. You'll then get used to the slight offset/off center field of view and perspective on the hitch. And if it still gives you a headache, then use one of these guide plates and you'll nail it without so much as a shoulder check.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/OneMo...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Due to your love of driving into water that's deeper than the door tops, I'd say mounted up on the coachroof is best.
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I have one on my 110 mounted to the rear roof (above the rear door). I'll take some pics and post the set-up shortly.
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Old August 17th, 2017, 08:37 AM
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You guys are fun.

Not for me, although we are building me a 110 5 door with galv chassis,bulkhead,B pilars, etc. 4.0 gmes v8, auto, etc.

This is actually on a soft top truck we built for a Nantucket owner. The truck has a rear step bumper but has no receiver hitch. It has a side swing tailgate for ease of passengers getting into the rear jump seats.
If I center it, the thing is (in my mind) likely to get raked off by someones foot getting into the back of the truck. That said I'd also like it to be as unobtrusive as possible. This picture shows why the space between the tire and bumper might not be an optimal field of view. Thinking under the reverse lamp.
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You guys are fun.

This is actually on a truck we built for a Nantucket owner. The truck has a rear step bumper but has no receiver hitch. It has a side swing tailgate for ease of passengers getting into the rear jump seats.
If I center it the thing is (in my mind) likely to get raked off by someones foot getting into the back of the truck. That said I'd also like it to be as unobtrusive as possible.
How much access do you have behind that plate where the receiver is on NAS bumper?

Do you know the camera you are buying?

Do you plan on using those holes on that plate for anything else?

Do you mind drilling an appropriately size hole in that plate for a camera?

If you answered yes, yes, no, no then mount it in the cavity of the hitch block off plate. I can draw a sketch of what I think would work if you're interested.
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Due to your love of driving into water that's deeper than the door tops, I'd say mounted up on the coachroof is best.
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How much access do you have behind that plate where the receiver is on NAS bumper?

Do you know the camera you are buying?

Do you plan on using those holes on that plate for anything else?

Do you mind drilling an appropriately size hole in that plate for a camera?

If you answered yes, yes, no, no then mount it in the cavity of the hitch block off plate. I can draw a sketch of what I think would work if you're interested.
By plate do you mean the rear crossmember ? Total access, this is/was a 1986 ex mod 90 with a side tank under the passenger seat. The camera is a pioneer unit ND-BC8 https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/P...Cameras/ND-BC8

Have it, and going to complete the install this morning. Camera is square though...
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I have this license plate mount for the wife's VW. Makes for a clean install.
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_020CAU...AU001&skipvs=T
That pioneer camera is almost the exact dimensions as the clarion camera.
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By plate do you mean the rear crossmember ? Total access, this is/was a 1986 ex mod 90 with a side tank under the passenger seat. The camera is a pioneer unit ND-BC8 https://www.pioneerelectronics.com/P...Cameras/ND-BC8

Have it, and going to complete the install this morning. Camera is square though...
If you had more time I think inside the rear step bumper (where the receiver would be on the NAS rear step bumper) would be cool, but it would require a bracket (attached to the 4 holes in the plate) and a camera that fit (long lens tube).

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You guys are fun.

Not for me, although we are building me a 110 5 door with galv chassis,bulkhead,B pilars, etc. 4.0 gmes v8, auto, etc.

This is actually on a soft top truck we built for a Nantucket owner. The truck has a rear step bumper but has no receiver hitch. It has a side swing tailgate for ease of passengers getting into the rear jump seats.
If I center it, the thing is (in my mind) likely to get raked off by someones foot getting into the back of the truck. That said I'd also like it to be as unobtrusive as possible. This picture shows why the space between the tire and bumper might not be an optimal field of view. Thinking under the reverse lamp.
I picked up a flush-mount bullet style camera from Amazon on the cheap. It's not exactly 1080/HD but it works well enough. I got this style because the wiring was simple (power from reverse light) and because I could mount it into the existing bumper holes without much modification. Take a look / might be worth considering.
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I'm sure it's obvious, but probably still worth mentioning, that it's always good to have just a little bit of the vehicle's rear end showing up in the camera's field of view. It helps tremendously with perspective.
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If there were any way to install it stealth-like in the license plate lamp housing, that's where I'd put it. One small hole and silicone-goop it in there.

Edit: Just went to the link for the camera. Looks too big to sneak it inside the lamp housing without removing it from the supplied mount. Maybe a neat little bracket that slips between the Lamp and the rear panel? That way you don't have to drill more holes and you can run the wires thru the license lamp wire hole. Maybe with one of those round tail lamp guards on it?
Cut out a piece of 1/4 inch black Starboard as a plinth of sorts.
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On the tailgate under the tire in the 'thick ribbed portion', or on the side of the license plate light housing?? I would think centered would be best obviously, and it will be somewhat hidden under the spare tire if on the gate...
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IMHO, the most useful place to put a backup camera is as high and as far back as possible, so that it stares down at the bumper and corners. Doesn't look great, unfortunately.
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I'm sure it's obvious, but probably still worth mentioning, that it's always good to have just a little bit of the vehicle's rear end showing up in the camera's field of view. It helps tremendously with perspective.
Yes you would think that it is obvious but sometimes I get in other peoples cars, rentals, etc and am shocked at the side view mirror and rear view mirror set ups. But then again there are constantly people moving into other lanes because they are passing someone that is on the shoulder or making a long sweeping right hand turn. Its like they do know how wide their cars are.
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I'm gonna hop on this and ask about ones that have an integrated 3rd brakelight? Considering putting one where the rear washer nozzle is fitted and was curious if anyone else has done this sort of mod?

eg: https://www.amazon.com/Surface-Unive.../dp/B01N29NAXL
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