I've heard stories of people adding a second heater to their D90s... has anyone here done it? I didn't see it in the FAQ or in the archives...
Yes, I know about new door seals and a drop curtain and all of that. But for hauling a full car of people long distances, this seems like a great option.
I'd like to look into seeing how other people did it before I get the tuffy center box in case I decide to mount it in there and cut holes in the back... Anyone have pics/model names?
For what it's worth, I recently installed seat heaters in my front seats. It was an easy DIY job and they are my best upgrade so far. The warm in about 2 minutes, and keep me comfortable until the engine gets warm.
I've been thinking about doing this to my 110 and replacing my seat foam at the same. Got any details on the install? How much of a PITA is removing/reinstalling the seat cover? Which seat heaters did you purchase? Where did you mount the switches? Thanks!
I have seat heaters in the green 90. I'll drive it to Bud's so you can check it out if you'd like. Easy install, came with new covers and foam. Not cheap, though. If you just wanted the heaters, I think they can be had from somewhere else seperately.
You may as well wait and put the Espar in when you do the diesel install.
I have seat heaters in the green 90. I'll drive it to Bud's so you can check it out if you'd like. Easy install, came with new covers and foam. Not cheap, though. If you just wanted the heaters, I think they can be had from somewhere else seperately.
Removing the seat trim on a defender is "So simple, a caveman can do it". Both base and back strip off like a t-shirt. I ran the wiring through the back of the seat, and both seat wiring through a floor grommet under the console to the underbody, and back up through the one of the bulkhead grommet blanks to the fuze panel. The one thing I did that the instructions didn't include, was I ran both leads to a relay, and powered the relay from my cigar lighter ignition power source. I think each seat will demand up to 5 amps (60watt). The two switches for both seats are mounted on my Iron Goat console. Read the instructions and let me know if anybody wants a particular pic of something.
Each seat took about 30 minutes to install, however tag on an extra 2 hours when I tried (and succeeded) in tying both power leads into the vehicle fuse panel, which i preferred to having the seperate inline fuse holders that came with kit harness. It was after the fact easy, but I have got to figure out where i can get the female connectors that are the correct size for the fuse panel sockets. the standard size we will all find at your local autoparts store are not the correcte size to use.
The Golfcat by Coleman...no freezing install...no fear of blown up gas tanks...hope it works cause
the diesel just has a tough time gettin warm when it's 10 below fahrenheit.
George
Janey came with supplemental heater bolted to the back of the cubby. It was the same dimensions as the cubby width and height and about 4 inches deep. It was plumbed in line with the main heater and consisted of two small heater cores and a blower. You can ask Mike H and Ron how toasty it kept them on the trip across country in the winter. Its at my place in CA, but I could take some pix when I get back down there. Its an extremely simple design, but looks very Rover. I think someone could easily fabricate a few.
I've also got a Canadian D-90 with the aux heater under the pass. seat. Mine is Shite. If it truly does have heater core lines going to and from it, though I could not see any easily, I would strongly lean towards the Mojave Heater. It would be such an easy swap because I already have all the power leads and switches installed. 12,000 BTU is equal to 3500+ watts per hour. That's a lotta heat.
The kit came from AB$. Maybe you'll see it offered in the vendors specials section now that they have a presence here.
Yeah, buddy, I'm back. I'm stuck here for the next couple weekends. Sheri's headed to the Great White North to work the Quest again, so I'm stuck here feeding her livestock. Bud's will be the highlight for me for the next couple weeks. It's cool though, I have some new rover goodies I've been meaning to install.
Yeah, buddy, I'm back. I'm stuck here for the next couple weekends. Sheri's headed to the Great White North to work the Quest again, so I'm stuck here feeding her livestock. Bud's will be the highlight for me for the next couple weeks. It's cool though, I have some new rover goodies I've been meaning to install.
Janey's heater was nice. Terrible plumbing job, but a nice heater kept the one side kidney nice and toasty. It also had the advantage of being very low relative to the level of coolant in the radiator. Great for heat, bad for leaks.
The kit came from AB$. Maybe you'll see it offered in the vendors specials section now that they have a presence here.
Ok, I'll bite these will be on sale just until 2-12-07 when I leave here on the 12th the sale is over. Item#8982H Reg price 649.95 D-90 source sale 599.95. Please contact me directly for the sale special.
I spoke to you on the phone a couple of times over the years and you were very helpful.
If you're leaving for good on the 12th, I'm sure you'll be missed.
Nope, I'm just leaving my desk and heading to Winter Romp in Maine www.winterromp.org. Actually I'm spending the first 3 days of vacation working on the Hybrid since I will have some free help in town for the week. No worries I'm a lifer here I have 14 years in and I don't see a change in the near future.
I got mine for $75 per seat from Heatedseatkits.com. Came with harness. You can view the details at http://www.heatedseatkits.com/heatedseatkits/index.html. The model I got was the Innovative Heat II.
Each seat took about 30 minutes to install, however tag on an extra 2 hours when I tried (and succeeded) in tying both power leads into the vehicle fuse panel, which i preferred to having the seperate inline fuse holders that came with kit harness. .
Overlander. Thanks for the info. Followed the link and am confused by the ad. When you order the kit do you get a heating element for one cushion, or both bottom and back?
Any problems with wires getting tangled if you need to remove the cushions. Anybody make a dash insert for extra switches? Like lights, seat heat, aux heaters. Thinking I need more room than is available in stock config. Any way to expand# of fuses - larger fuse box available?
I saw this and went to their site and ordered some for my front seats. They arrived in two days. Very nice package BUT beware of the canon plug connectors. The job they do on these is crap. I had to remove about four wires and redo them otherwise it would have never worked. Maybe even start a fire. Double check everything and clean it up BEFORE you start the install. It's easier to redo these connections on the workbench than behind the seat or in the battery box.
I'd like to install seat heaters too. What's the name of the manufacturer?
Cheers,
Neil
Overlander said:
For what it's worth, I recently installed seat heaters in my front seats. It was an easy DIY job and they are my best upgrade so far. The warm in about 2 minutes, and keep me comfortable until the engine gets warm. The ones I got have a high and low setting, and on high, I"m ready to take my jacket off, before the engine is even warm on the way to work. I had to come up with a solution, as the 2.8 diesel has a 5 core radiator, and like to run under a 100* most of the time. (RN radiator muff on the way).
Each kit comes with a heating element for BOTH the base and the seat back. they both tie into a single harness, and the base seat has an integrated temp sensore (to prevent overheating) and pressure sensor (will cut the power to the seat if nobody is sitting in it). The way I ran my harness, there is no issue with having to disconnet the harness to each seat base when removing to access the battery/seat boxes. I just lift the base up and set it on the center console to get at my battery. The base element has a quick disconnect if I want to move it further than that. I can take pics if anyone is interested.
Each kit comes with a heating element for BOTH the base and the seat back. they both tie into a single harness, and the base seat has an integrated temp sensore (to prevent overheating) and pressure sensor (will cut the power to the seat if nobody is sitting in it). The way I ran my harness, there is no issue with having to disconnet the harness to each seat base when removing to access the battery/seat boxes. I just lift the base up and set it on the center console to get at my battery. The base element has a quick disconnect if I want to move it further than that. I can take pics if anyone is interested.
Many thanks for letting me know who makes these kits. <sarcastic> smiley
Overlander said:
Each kit comes with a heating element for BOTH the base and the seat back. they both tie into a single harness, and the base seat has an integrated temp sensore (to prevent overheating) and pressure sensor (will cut the power to the seat if nobody is sitting in it). The way I ran my harness, there is no issue with having to disconnet the harness to each seat base when removing to access the battery/seat boxes. I just lift the base up and set it on the center console to get at my battery. The base element has a quick disconnect if I want to move it further than that. I can take pics if anyone is interested.
That's no excuse! That'll teach me not to read the complete thread. I guessed that's what it must have been so went ahead and ordered a kit. Canada's way too cold to drive around without a warm butt.
Cheers newfD90!
newfD90 said:
I don't think anybody answered you because the answer is right here in this thread on page 1.
No I didn't. Haven't had any issues whatsoever with the system, to include the harness. I still marvel everytime I put my seat base back on after getting at my batteries, and watching the harness that the base is tethered to slip itself back through without assistance, and without binding. When I installed it, i though it would be a PITA I would just have to accept.
Oh ya, and DAMN, does my seat get nice and toasty in the first few minutes on my way to work every day! Now that I have RN radiator muff installed, I'm set! Cold is eliminated in my D.
I've got my seat heaters on order from Exmoor (via Trevor @ rovahfarm.com). $109 for both sides, wiring, etc. Of course, while I'm in there I figured I'd better replace the seat foams and replace that grey moorland cloth with some nice XS leather covers. :grin So my $109 seat heaters escalated to $572...
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