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Old September 21st, 2004, 11:10 AM
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I like the Mojave idea, I was thinking I might replace the stock heater with it, as my stock heater doesn't work most of the time, it doesn't blow enough air, and it sometimes makes funny sounds. Oh and if you have a 180* T-stat in your engine you should get very warm air out of the heater. You may need a radiator muff to help the engine warm up if you do allot of highway driving. The problem with the stock heater is it doesn't blow enough air, it needs more cfms to do the job right.

PS I have a Canadian D-90 and it doesn't have the extra blower, the PO must have removed it.

I don't think those little 300 watt electric heaters will do to much in a Defender.
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Old February 4th, 2007, 12:35 PM
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Okay...It's been a while. Anybody install any of these aux heaters? Work well? Guys, I use my stock heater on summer mornings in Denver, forget to turn it off, drive home...I'm warm. So you know I'm hurting in the winter. What works? Any techs ever install one of these?
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Old February 4th, 2007, 01:03 PM
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Still using my Eber (see above) in my 300 Tdi. Not only is the cab toasty, but makes the Tdi easier to start in the cold.

I think it's great.

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My passenger side compartment has an ARB compressor in it so there's not much room for much else. I have a 300Tdi and the Eber looks like the ticket for me but where do you mount it?

After this winter I'm ready to spend what it takes to at least keep my coffee from freezing.
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For what it's worth, I recently installed seat heaters in my front seats. It was an easy DIY job and they are my best upgrade so far. The warm in about 2 minutes, and keep me comfortable until the engine gets warm. The ones I got have a high and low setting, and on high, I"m ready to take my jacket off, before the engine is even warm on the way to work. I had to come up with a solution, as the 2.8 diesel has a 5 core radiator, and like to run under a 100* most of the time. (RN radiator muff on the way).
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For what it's worth, I recently installed seat heaters in my front seats. It was an easy DIY job and they are my best upgrade so far.
I've been thinking about doing this to my 110 and replacing my seat foam at the same. Got any details on the install? How much of a PITA is removing/reinstalling the seat cover? Which seat heaters did you purchase? Where did you mount the switches? Thanks!
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Old February 5th, 2007, 10:55 AM
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For what it's worth, I recently installed seat heaters in my front seats. It was an easy DIY job and they are my best upgrade so far. The warm in about 2 minutes, and keep me comfortable until the engine gets warm.
I'd be interested in this info as well.
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Old February 5th, 2007, 01:50 PM
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I've been thinking about doing this to my 110 and replacing my seat foam at the same. Got any details on the install? How much of a PITA is removing/reinstalling the seat cover? Which seat heaters did you purchase? Where did you mount the switches? Thanks!
I have seat heaters in the green 90. I'll drive it to Bud's so you can check it out if you'd like. Easy install, came with new covers and foam. Not cheap, though. If you just wanted the heaters, I think they can be had from somewhere else seperately.

You may as well wait and put the Espar in when you do the diesel install.
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Old February 5th, 2007, 02:02 PM
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I have seat heaters in the green 90. I'll drive it to Bud's so you can check it out if you'd like. Easy install, came with new covers and foam. Not cheap, though. If you just wanted the heaters, I think they can be had from somewhere else seperately.
Nah, ya better bring the 110! Where'd ya get the kit?

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You may as well wait and put the Espar in when you do the diesel install.
Damn troublemaker!

You back from down South yet?
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Old February 5th, 2007, 02:04 PM
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I got mine for $75 per seat from Heatedseatkits.com. Came with harness. You can view the details at http://www.heatedseatkits.com/heatedseatkits/index.html. The model I got was the Innovative Heat II.

Removing the seat trim on a defender is "So simple, a caveman can do it". Both base and back strip off like a t-shirt. I ran the wiring through the back of the seat, and both seat wiring through a floor grommet under the console to the underbody, and back up through the one of the bulkhead grommet blanks to the fuze panel. The one thing I did that the instructions didn't include, was I ran both leads to a relay, and powered the relay from my cigar lighter ignition power source. I think each seat will demand up to 5 amps (60watt). The two switches for both seats are mounted on my Iron Goat console. Read the instructions and let me know if anybody wants a particular pic of something.

Each seat took about 30 minutes to install, however tag on an extra 2 hours when I tried (and succeeded) in tying both power leads into the vehicle fuse panel, which i preferred to having the seperate inline fuse holders that came with kit harness. It was after the fact easy, but I have got to figure out where i can get the female connectors that are the correct size for the fuse panel sockets. the standard size we will all find at your local autoparts store are not the correcte size to use.
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Old February 5th, 2007, 02:22 PM
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Excellent, thanks for the info.
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Old February 5th, 2007, 03:24 PM
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easy heat solution (especially for diesel)

I need something fast...it's COLD in Chicago so I ordered one of these...

http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-5036A8...&s=home-garden

The Golfcat by Coleman...no freezing install...no fear of blown up gas tanks...hope it works cause
the diesel just has a tough time gettin warm when it's 10 below fahrenheit.
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Janey came with supplemental heater bolted to the back of the cubby. It was the same dimensions as the cubby width and height and about 4 inches deep. It was plumbed in line with the main heater and consisted of two small heater cores and a blower. You can ask Mike H and Ron how toasty it kept them on the trip across country in the winter. Its at my place in CA, but I could take some pix when I get back down there. Its an extremely simple design, but looks very Rover. I think someone could easily fabricate a few.
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I've also got a Canadian D-90 with the aux heater under the pass. seat. Mine is Shite. If it truly does have heater core lines going to and from it, though I could not see any easily, I would strongly lean towards the Mojave Heater. It would be such an easy swap because I already have all the power leads and switches installed. 12,000 BTU is equal to 3500+ watts per hour. That's a lotta heat.
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Old February 5th, 2007, 10:09 PM
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Nah, ya better bring the 110! Where'd ya get the kit?



Damn troublemaker!

You back from down South yet?
The kit came from AB$. Maybe you'll see it offered in the vendors specials section now that they have a presence here.

Yeah, buddy, I'm back. I'm stuck here for the next couple weekends. Sheri's headed to the Great White North to work the Quest again, so I'm stuck here feeding her livestock. Bud's will be the highlight for me for the next couple weeks. It's cool though, I have some new rover goodies I've been meaning to install.
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Old February 6th, 2007, 09:38 AM
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Yeah, buddy, I'm back. I'm stuck here for the next couple weekends. Sheri's headed to the Great White North to work the Quest again, so I'm stuck here feeding her livestock. Bud's will be the highlight for me for the next couple weeks. It's cool though, I have some new rover goodies I've been meaning to install.
Ahhh yes forgot about that. Cool, glad to have ya back. Ya' done good things down there.

See 'ya at Buds!
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Janey's heater was nice. Terrible plumbing job, but a nice heater kept the one side kidney nice and toasty. It also had the advantage of being very low relative to the level of coolant in the radiator. Great for heat, bad for leaks.
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[QUOTE=Rod Hayward]The kit came from AB$. Maybe you'll see it offered in the vendors specials section now that they have a presence here.

Ok, I'll bite these will be on sale just until 2-12-07 when I leave here on the 12th the sale is over. Item#8982H Reg price 649.95 D-90 source sale 599.95. Please contact me directly for the sale special.

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Eric you're a stud.

I spoke to you on the phone a couple of times over the years and you were very helpful.
If you're leaving for good on the 12th, I'm sure you'll be missed.

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Nope, I'm just leaving my desk and heading to Winter Romp in Maine www.winterromp.org. Actually I'm spending the first 3 days of vacation working on the Hybrid since I will have some free help in town for the week. No worries I'm a lifer here I have 14 years in and I don't see a change in the near future.

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