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Old February 16th, 2011, 09:13 AM
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Your rpms sound normal so I don't think the gearing is off. Mine were low 2k at 70, now about 2600 iirc. I have adjusted my kickdown and am happy with it at this point, but it used to not kick down and would slow on hills.
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Old February 16th, 2011, 09:39 PM
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Looking at rovers north, I see that they list different temp gauges for the manual and auto....does anyone know what the difference is? I don't think that is the issue, but curious to why different part numbers.
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Old March 13th, 2011, 12:15 PM
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So the stock lines and cooler went in pretty easy. I was worried they weren't going to work, but they look pretty nice. I still need to do something with the lines near the oil pan, some brackets or something. I imagine there is a stock part for the 97's that use something like that.

I ended up flipping the supports in the grill around because the tubular part of the supports was interfering with the location of the cooler.

Also attached is a pic from a recent brew day. The wort from sparging and the 90 in the background.

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I still need to do something with the lines near the oil pan, some brackets or something. I imagine there is a stock part for the 97's that use something like that.
I'm guessing there is. Mine are zip tied
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Has anyone with a ZF trans and cooler done as Bill suggested and installed aeroquip lines with AN fittings? If you have what fittings/adapters are required?
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Old March 13th, 2011, 04:47 PM
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Yes there is a bracket. It attaches to one of the oil pan bolts about mid way along the pan and holds both lines. Don't have a pic of mine but I can look up the part #s if you want?
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Old March 13th, 2011, 08:17 PM
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Yes there is a bracket. It attaches to one of the oil pan bolts about mid way along the pan and holds both lines. Don't have a pic of mine but I can look up the part #s if you want?
Yea man that would be awesome. Thanks!
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Old March 13th, 2011, 10:04 PM
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See attached.

Parts 11, 12 & 13 are the bracket on the oil pan.
Parts 7, 8, 9 & 10 are the one under the front frame crossmember just behind the oil cooler.

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Old July 28th, 2011, 07:58 AM
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Here you go

http://gallery.lhsw.com/view_photo.p...ll&id=DSC01993

This one gives you an idea of what my mod to the front facia looks like

http://gallery.lhsw.com/view_photo.p...ll&id=DSC01962

Stock cooler location from below

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Charles,
So over the weekend i was finally putting my grill facia back in but found that the cooler sticks out too far to get the grill facia back in with out really reefing on it. Does yours touch at all? I see you notched out part of the cooler, i did not and put the supports on the back side. I wonder if flipping that around and notching is the fix.
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Old July 28th, 2011, 08:12 AM
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I don't believe it touches at all but will go out later and confirm. If ,y pics are not enough detail to tell if mine is flipped as opposed to yours I'll see if I can take more, but don't have time to pull the facia for a few days (maybe weeks at the rate I am going).

I suffer from CRS so can't go by memory, sorry.
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Old July 28th, 2011, 09:20 AM
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I think your pics are good enough. I didn't think to take another look when I was installing the cooler. I started to wonder though for that exact reason, I was noticing that it needed to be notched...but I thought surely LR wouldn't do that. hehe yea.

I was planning on yarding out the radiator tonight and taking it to the local shop and see if I can get it serviced or maybe rebuilt with another core. With the new VDO gauge off road now in the summer I'm usually 200-205 while driving offroad and 195 when downhill moving, 190-200 ish idling, and long steep climbs up to 215-220. So I figure wouldnt hurt to have them take a look at it. Highway and flat its 190-195. Clutch seems to be working fine, new water pump, thermostat, and hoses.

So that being said not much more to flip the cooler around and notch it out. But let me know if it touches or not.

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Can't remember if you are using the stock set up but if you are then it goes behind the supports.
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Old July 28th, 2011, 06:39 PM
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Yea I am using the stock set up. and I did not put it behind the support. rats!

I think the hoses should have enough slack that I can just unbolt and swap it. Thanks for the pic! I know what I'm doing tonight!!

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Pictures of my install can be seen here. Ive used a Mercedes Benz Truck gearbox radiator wich fitted pretty neat after all.

http://landroverclub.com.ar/viewtopic.php?t=116756

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Old July 28th, 2011, 11:26 PM
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Whoa that is pretty slick. I love the creativity!

I just switched the cooler to behind the mounts and did a bit of notching and it fits just fine. Clearance is real close to the cooler to the facia, but not touching. So pretty happy about that. I spent all that time finding the mesh and finally getting the right color....glad i didn't have to undo what i did.

Radiator is out also. Wow, what a mess. Going down to the radiator shop in the morning to see if they cant do some improvements.

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Yep took the radiator to the shop and it's shot! So they are rebuiling. Sounds like heating saga solved to me! I guess we'll know next Friday.

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So update here. Radiator rebuild has helped, but only 5 deg on the climbs. Still getting same temp in town stop and go, similar off road temps.

Cools down when downhill or not under load. Just seems to get warm when slow or under load.

I did the blue goo test and all is good there, I ordered a new fan clutch and expansion tank cap. I could really slow down the fan with cardboard when it's hot. Should be here Wednesday.

I was running without the grill and metal fascia for awhile, seems like that gives a bit more airflow.

Also to be mentioned the rockware front and rear bumpers, as well as sliders. Usually at least one jerry can full. Also I am running 255/85 BFGs.

I see they don't make the flex a lite 210 fans anymore?
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Old September 4th, 2011, 10:42 PM
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Inspired by Charles

I got Carquest to make me up some paint and then took it to a place in town to put it in a rattle can. Customcargrills.com for the mesh. And permatex cold weld to hold it all in.

I did most of it with a jig saw actually. Would have been alot better had I used more lighting. Shadows got me a couple times. And then some die grinder action and it was pretty good.

Winch is sitting on the floor, should go in next weekend. I assume that, with the lights will only reduce airflow as well......
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Nicely done!

Your description sounds like the fan clutch will help your cooling issue.
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Well an afternoon's worth of stop and go and idling and barely touched 200. So sounds like an improvement. It was low 80's today so cooler but still warmer. actually seeing cooling after in town long climbs at idle speeds was nice!

The new fan clutch and cap seemed to have helped. I guess next summer's 100+ will tell.
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