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Old March 5th, 2014, 09:52 PM
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ATE Super Blue, Red, Yellow Brake fluid DO NOT USE

I been meaning to post this. I used the ATE Super blue product and it ate up my mastercylinder and proportioning valve seals. I would not recommend this product at all.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 10:38 PM
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I been meaning to post this. I used the ATE Super blue product and it ate up my mastercylinder and proportioning valve seals. I would not recommend this product at all.
Could you share more about what happened and why ATE was identified at the cause?
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Old March 5th, 2014, 11:14 PM
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I purchased the truck in 2006. I used Super Blue on my 240 Volvos with no problems so I decided to begin to use this product on my 94 NAS. Since purchasing I may have flushed the system 3 times at least with Super Blue. I have also replaced the clutch master cylinder as well a few years back but attributed that to normal wear and tear. In the past 2 months, both the brake master cylinder and the proportioning valve began to leak. I have replaced the master cylinder once since purchase. The seals on the reservoir are now swollen so that the fluid is getting past it. and leaking down the face of the booster(servo what ever one wants to call it). I have ordered a new master and in the meantime noticed that the proportioning valve is leaking out of what looks like the rubber plug that faces the passenger's side fender well. So basically the only contributing factor here is the fluid I used as the P.O. did not use the Super Blue and I have flushed and maintained the system

------ Follow up post added March 6th, 2014 12:17 AM ------

as an added note this is my personnel experience with this product and humble opinion. I will not be using this product again on my defender. Now on other vehicles I will see what the manufacture calls for as though this seems like a good product it is just as expensive I believe as dealer recommended alternative so I may just stick with what the dealer/manufacturer recommends.
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Old March 6th, 2014, 10:39 AM
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It's supposed to be exactly the same as their yellow fluid, just tinted blue so that you can alternate when you flush to be sure you got all the old out. Now you have me worried, I just ordered two bottles for my 110 and my DD Range...

Where did you get the Master? Are you sure they aren't just inferior seals in the rebuild?

FWIW, Super Blue is NOT DOT Approved because of it's color. DOT Mandates that fluids be certain colors so that Ignoramus' can differentiate what is pouring out of their car...
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It's supposed to be exactly the same as their yellow fluid, just tinted blue so that you can alternate when you flush to be sure you got all the old out. Now you have me worried, I just ordered two bottles for my 110 and my DD Range...

Where did you get the Master? Are you sure they aren't just inferior seals in the rebuild?

FWIW, Super Blue is NOT DOT Approved because of it's color. DOT Mandates that fluids be certain colors so that Ignoramus' can differentiate what is pouring out of their car...
Yep I get the colors changes for flushing but to have both the master and the proportioning valve leak made me question using the product. I think the master cylinder was a OEM. in addition, I now question if it killed my clutch slave cylinder awhile ago. To many "ifs" for me to want to continue to use the product.

I remember that for my MG midget it was the GTX LMA (I think) recommend due to the seals in the Maggot.
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Old March 7th, 2014, 05:47 AM
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I don't know, a couple friends of mine have run it in older BMWs etc. with no problems, so I didn't think anything of it. It says it meets DOT 3/4 Specs (except for color) and that it can be mixed with either or DOT 5.1
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Old March 7th, 2014, 08:29 AM
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The blue is blue because its a race spec fluid.. so when you have a fluid leak in your race car you know what it is. It's easily identifiable.

------ Follow up post added March 7th, 2014 08:38 AM ------

There's nothing special about it as far as a Land Rover is concerned.. just run whatever and stay on top of your flushes. Tip: if you at least bleed the brakes twice a year, by process you will have mostly flushed the system annually, and your braking system will be in miles better shape than 99% of the vehicle out there. Most shops won't touch brake fluid unless they need to service the hydraulic system. There are no performance gains by running ATE blue over any other name brand fluid (Brembo, Wilwood, Castrol..... even ATE gold.) Use whatever and be diligent about your bleed/flush habits..
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Interesting I use the super blue and have not had a problem yet .
Sounds like your hydraulic system may have had a petroleum based fluid in it at one time ? .
Or maybe a silicone fluid ? I have seen the swollen seals etc. From cross contamination of fluids in the past . Im guessing that your calipers wheel cylinders might be next if it's cross contamination .
Might want to have a look further down stream of the master and proportioning valve to verify .

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