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Old June 3rd, 2015, 12:39 PM
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At $200 a pop

I'm in over my head.


Changed 200tdi rear oil seal and as predicted if not properly done will leak right away n that's what happened.

Used a genuine Dowdy seal too.

Has anyone any other tips or tricks, suggestions other than the LR Toolbox video on YouTube to add to?

Did put sealant on both sides of the gasket.

This is my first reseal after initial install that did last for over two years.

Gasket set in route.

Thanks in advance
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 02:19 PM
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Any grooving on the crank where he seal runs?
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 02:30 PM
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Thanks for repliing,
Yes, I felt a Uber .0001 groove.
Thinking maybe I shouldn't of seated the seal to the bottom now.

The seal upon install didn't go as easily as I thought it should with the plastic sleeve. Took a few tries till I figured it out.

How far down dose the seal need to be? I put it to the base of the housing thinking that's where it needed to be for proper placement.

I will ask, is there a proper startup procedure?
All I've found is, run for 1 minute shut off for seal to adhere
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 02:52 PM
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Thanks for repliing,
Yes, I felt a Uber .0001 groove.
Thinking maybe I shouldn't of seated the seal to the bottom now.

The seal upon install didn't go as easily as I thought it should with the plastic sleeve. Took a few tries till I figured it out.

How far down dose the seal need to be? I put it to the base of the housing thinking that's where it needed to be for proper placement.

I will ask, is there a proper startup procedure?
All I've found is, run for 1 minute shut off for seal to adhere
From the workshop manual:
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Using special seal replacer 18C134-I 1 and withthe lip side leading drive-in the seal as far as the tool allows. If the tool is not available fit the seal to the bottom of the housing to ensure squareness.
You are following all the steps in the workshop manual?

$200 for a rear main seal? 200TDI engine parts from Turner Engineering, pistons, bearings etc Can't be more than $100 to your door.
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 03:05 PM
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Yes on purchase place,have to buy kit for flywheel housing gasket n s&h is the killer.

No on the manual, relying on all the threads to do it, all threads here and elsewhere read the same.

Maybe the groove in question is worse than I figured.

What baffles me is last time I did it I didn't know about the sleeve protection n didn't use it......n sealed for all this time,lol
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Old June 3rd, 2015, 03:34 PM
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You don't need the whole gasket kit. Just the one gasket.

Perhaps best to download the manual and read it.
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Old June 7th, 2015, 02:30 PM
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I used an all makes rear seal and lapped the crank end with redscotch Brite.

No leaks 20k later.


That being said, they do make a speedi sleeve that fits the 200tdi crank, if you do have a groove worn in
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Old June 7th, 2015, 02:37 PM
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Please share, currently pulling last housing bolts,
what's a speedy sleeve? & red scotch brite?

EDIT, did look both up

Did accidentally bend seal lip upon install
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Old June 7th, 2015, 04:23 PM
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Seal doesn't appear to be leaking
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Old June 7th, 2015, 05:16 PM
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No, pointed shaft down currently n no leaking, starting to wonder where else it could be leaking from before I pull the plate off.
Checked backside of valve cover n nothing, followed leak up to the starter area dry above that.

Thinking on putting just flywheel on n starting it for a better view
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Old June 7th, 2015, 05:33 PM
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Mr Briggs.....BAS, checking gearbox fluid it was low,filled n started flowing out input shaft on floor.

Thanks for replying with this information
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Old June 7th, 2015, 05:40 PM
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Always look at the leaking oil to see which type of fluid is coming out.
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Old June 7th, 2015, 05:43 PM
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I did, believed that due to not cleaning crossmember it appeared to be oil.

Didn't run long enough to clear old oil out.

Now to find a LT77S, this one always leaked
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Old June 7th, 2015, 05:45 PM
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Have you changed the seal??
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Old June 7th, 2015, 05:49 PM
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No, not on the lt77, figuring it always marked it's territory with a few drops around the center seal, not sure if I have the experience of disassembling a grarbox
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Old June 7th, 2015, 05:51 PM
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Pretty sure, you just need to pop off the little cover that the throwout bearing runs on to change the seal. The seal is inside of it. No need to take anything in the box apart.
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Old June 7th, 2015, 05:54 PM
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I'll have to do some research, haven't looked into this area yet,
Thanks though , big thumbs up
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Old June 7th, 2015, 05:58 PM
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Same seal LT77 and R380.
SEAL INPUT SHAFT R380 GEARBOX, RNL049, FTC5303 - Rovers North - Classic Land Rover Parts

Gasket

Suffix E and below
Product Details - Rovers North - Classic Land Rover Parts

F and above
GASKET TRANS FRONT COVER-B/HSG LT77, FTC316 - Rovers North - Classic Land Rover Parts
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Old June 7th, 2015, 08:05 PM
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Guy's thanks alot for your replys n suggestions, will get parts ordered
I'll try Trevor first though
Will update when complete.
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