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Old May 22nd, 2008, 06:42 PM
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If they were sand rails or VW based buggies there are no springs because they use torsion bars inside the front end and in the rear tube. I can't imagine them running using shocks only.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 01:22 PM
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If they were sand rails or VW based buggies there are no springs because they use torsion bars inside the front end and in the rear tube. I can't imagine them running using shocks only.
Well they are not just shocks, they have adjustable gas pressure too - like Fox. Gas pressure shocks work without springs in the right application since the compressed gas is the spring . Remote reservoirs are better and the shocks can be doubled up to provide greater spring rates if necessary. Single long travel shocks with remote reservoirs running pressures of 300psi are most common for competition.

With Foxes on my Rover the ride height/spring rate can be adjusted when loaded up or when running light for crawling.
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Old May 23rd, 2008, 06:53 PM
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Well they are not just shocks, they have adjustable gas pressure too - like Fox. Gas pressure shocks work without springs in the right application since the compressed gas is the spring . Remote reservoirs are better and the shocks can be doubled up to provide greater spring rates if necessary. Single long travel shocks with remote reservoirs running pressures of 300psi are most common for competition.

With Foxes on my Rover the ride height/spring rate can be adjusted when loaded up or when running light for crawling.
Okay, so lets see these shocks working without springs on anything. There is no shock other than an Airshock that has the ability to hold any relevent amount of weight. Extra Nitrogen in a standard shock does almost nothing other than a minimal affect on dampening. Even then, to get any meaningful difference, you have to add or remove shims to the shock.

And doubling the shocks doesn't make a higher spring rate. In a matter of fact, I am not sure there is even a single part of your post that is accurate. Except for maybe the 300psi comment, I just don't know on that one.

I was really trying to be kind with the whole no springs thing, but come on guys!
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