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Old March 31st, 2008, 05:24 PM
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ARB approach angle vs. stock

I know from my searches that everyone loves rockware but my old rangie had an ARB and it was beyond bullet proof. I like em on the 90, especially with all the accessories. Right not I have the stock bumper with a winch and I was wondering is someone knows if the approach angle will be equal to, worse or better on an ARB vs. stock. Thanks.
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approach angle will be worse with the arb
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The deal for my ARB may have fallen through, if so you are more than welcome to it.

The approach angle on the ARB is fine unless you are climbing rocks or tackling obsticles. On my ST, I took the ARB off and put on a SG. I still have one on my SW, but I am looking to change that one out too.
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The approach angle on the ARB is fine unless you are climbing rocks or tackling obsticles.
So it's cool as long as you are not offroad?
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The deal for my ARB may have fallen through, if so you are more than welcome to it.

The approach angle on the ARB is fine unless you are climbing rocks or tackling obsticles. On my ST, I took the ARB off and put on a SG. I still have one on my SW, but I am looking to change that one out too.

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the ARB is great, take a beating, but does stick out a long way. no problem with mine , just wanted a change
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So it's cool as long as you are not offroad?
Believe it or not Buck - some of us don't actually need a 90 degree approach angle!
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Believe it or not Buck - some of us don't actually need a 90 degree approach angle!
I believe it! But, has anyone actually taken an approach angle measurement on an ARB? I would guess somewhere in the 20's. It's damn hard to run any trail of even minor difficulty with that.
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Are you saying that it works well if you are in plowing snow?
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The amount of steel involved is part of the preference. Bent an ARB easily- will probably bend he frame first with a Rockware. No comparison.
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I've actually manged to slightly bend my rockware. Granted it took hitting a tree at about 20mph and the only way you can tell is the slight difference in clearance between the ends of it and the front wings. I've seen and have pics of an ARB that got caught on a stump getting trashed.

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Well I guess that won't due. No ARB for me. Darn, I liked the look of it. If the angle was the same or similar to stock, I might have just sucked it up.
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that is unfortunate but you have to wonder how much throttle it took to bend that. these things are supposed to be tough but there is a limit to anything.

IIRC, The ARBs are an open design. A full box section would be alot stronger. And heavier.


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I've actually manged to slightly bend my rockware. Granted it took hitting a tree at about 20mph and the only way you can tell is the slight difference in clearance between the ends of it and the front wings. I've seen and have pics of an ARB that got caught on a stump getting trashed.

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I have an ARB on a RRC. It looks great and provides better protection by far than the stock front bumper. I don't think the front approach is a lot worse than stock, but it isn't very good. It just juts out too far in the front...especially in the centre where the winch mounts. I see the Rovertym and other better profiles pretty regularly, and there is just no getting around the fact that they are better designed for crawling and such. They do claim that the ARB was designed with Australian impact testing involved, whereas some of the more hardcore bumpers are subjected to less crash testing. I really believe that you need to get a bumper profile that is high and tight if you are really concerned about crawling or tighter and rougher trails. The ARB is tougher than stock and is pretty handsome, but it has more limitations than many other designs.

ETA - If you run really tall tires and cut back your fenders a lot, the Rovertym and Rockware styles are a lot better.
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that is unfortunate but you have to wonder how much throttle it took to bend that. these things are supposed to be tough but there is a limit to anything.

IIRC, The ARBs are an open design. A full box section would be alot stronger. And heavier.
Don't remember how fast in reverse he was going. He was trying to get over that stump and ended up hooking the back of the ARB on it. If it wasn't an open design maybe it wouldn't have torn up. But who knows. Anyway he ended up getting a RTE.

Buddy cracked his old ARB at the weld next to the winch when he hit a tree at I don't know what speed. But he had a nice dent in the bumper from it after he welded it back up.
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