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Old June 1st, 2011, 11:09 PM
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Anyone use 1/0 battery lead on 9.5ti winch?

I'm wondeirng because the way they have the solenoid built in the housing can the 1/0 cable make that quick 180 back to the terminal. I just bought one of the new 9.5cti, but looks the same as the 9.5ti.

The #2 seemed to be in fine shape with the bend. It appears you could get a bigger loop in the housing, but I thought I'd ask before I ordered the cables. I just about clicked buy on the genuinedealz.com, but figured I should ask first before spending $150 on cabling. Marine stuff sounds sweet though!

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Old June 1st, 2011, 11:11 PM
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Use welding cable, it bends much easier than automotive wire.
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Old June 1st, 2011, 11:31 PM
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Second on the welding cable. It bends easy, can take the power draw and is cheaper than the automotive cable. You can get it Air/Gas or any welding supply shop.
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I recommend marine-grade battery cable. It's more expensive than welding cable but each strand is solder-coated and it will last forever.

Here's my winch cabling thread:

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=26830
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Old June 2nd, 2011, 09:22 AM
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.... and it will last forever.
And welding cable won't?
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Old June 2nd, 2011, 12:21 PM
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Do you guys prefer crimp or soldering of the connectors? What's the pros/cons?

Chris have you had your 90 for a long time? I used to live in Woodland Park (97-01) and would see a 90 crusing around downtown. Its actually what started the madness for 90's....I wonder if it was you?
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Solder, all the way. It's the best way to ensure that you get a good connection that doesn't corrode. It's really easy to do; my write-up has all of the details and pictures.

I've had my 90 for about 7 years now but I only moved to the Springs last year so that probably wasn't me.
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Crimp or solder, either is is fine if you do it correctly.
Last year I removed a welding cable from my Disco (to relocate the solenoids). Out of curiosity I cut open one of the lugs I'd crimped on that had lived under the bumper for 10 years. The wires inside were as bright and shiny as the day I installed it.

Of course, if either are not done correctly, it could look like this (the starter cable, 6" from the battery, off my wife's Disco when we bought it last year)
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I'm wondeirng because the way they have the solenoid built in the housing can the 1/0 cable make that quick 180 back to the terminal. I just bought one of the new 9.5cti, but looks the same as the 9.5ti.

The #2 seemed to be in fine shape with the bend. It appears you could get a bigger loop in the housing, but I thought I'd ask before I ordered the cables. I just about clicked buy on the genuinedealz.com, but figured I should ask first before spending $150 on cabling. Marine stuff sounds sweet though!

Thanks,
Pete
Also, you don't have to jump from #2 to 1/0. You could use #1, depending on the length.
Here's an example of my #1 crimped connections. I use heavy duty lugs on welding cable.
Depending on the application I also add one of the rubber boots shown in the second photo.
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Old June 2nd, 2011, 09:27 PM
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Also, you don't have to jump from #2 to 1/0. You could use #1, depending on the length.
Here's an example of my #1 crimped connections. I use heavy duty lugs on welding cable.
Depending on the application I also add one of the rubber boots shown in the second photo.
Nice! Good to know. Thanks for the pics. Neat to see the welding cables after 10 years.
Pete

Length is the standard to the drivers side battery. I thought I was reading 1/0 on some other threads...that's why I was asking.
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Amperage (and cable size) gives pulling power. IMO, 2/0 is a good size choice for a Defender with the long run from the battery.

As said, a properly crimped connector will last forever. Soldering is good as well, but it must be done correctly. 2 layer heat shrink over the connectors is a good idea.
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Nice! Good to know. Thanks for the pics. Neat to see the welding cables after 10 years.
To be clear, the corroded cable is the OE cable from the battery to the starter off my wife's '97. The other pics are the replacement cable while I was making it last year.
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