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Old January 8th, 2013, 03:38 PM
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Turner seems to get stuff out fast, even with standard shipping. A friend ordered the stuff to rebuild the bottom end of his 4.6 from them and had the order at his place just under 24 hours later with standard shipping..

Are you going to have it back together in time for the snow run or are you planning to take the appliance regardless?
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Old January 8th, 2013, 03:44 PM
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Well we all saw that the LR3 is *way* too heavy to be a good fluffy snow truck, so the plan is to bring the defender..... It is literally in pieces at the moment, even the suspension is torn off so I have a job in front of me.

The other thing is that it doesn't have lockers yet, but it can't be any worse than the LR3 was.
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Old January 8th, 2013, 03:54 PM
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Well we all saw that the LR3 is *way* too heavy to be a good fluffy snow truck, so the plan is to bring the defender..... It is literally in pieces at the moment, even the suspension is torn off so I have a job in front of me.

The other thing is that it doesn't have lockers yet, but it can't be any worse than the LR3 was.
pshaw.. lockers (or lack thereof) aren't stopping me from going.

Only thing that kept me from going last year was this:
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Old January 17th, 2013, 05:19 AM
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Alright, been a week and some change - how things progressing? 3 weeks till Shaver..
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Old January 17th, 2013, 09:54 AM
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Yeah, work got in the way with a 3 day slow boat ride to SF...

Gonna be wrenching today, head gasket shows up from Rovers North today too.
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Old January 17th, 2013, 10:52 AM
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Yeah, work got in the way with a 3 day slow boat ride to SF...

Gonna be wrenching today, head gasket shows up from Rovers North today too.
geezus.. dont you hate when that happens. work can be SOOO inconsiderate, especially when uncle sam is your boss..
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 05:38 PM
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Changing the head out today... Old head on top, shiny Turner Engineering head below.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 06:07 PM
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I look forward to hearing your impressions of the HP Turner head. I bought one of those for a 2.25 petrol engine and I think it made a difference, although it was tough to determine how much of that was due to the HP head and how much was due to the engine overhaul I did at the same time.
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I look forward to hearing your impressions of the HP Turner head. I bought one of those for a 2.25 petrol engine and I think it made a difference, although it was tough to determine how much of that was due to the HP head and how much was due to the engine overhaul I did at the same time.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 06:21 PM
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Changing the head out today... Old head on top, shiny Turner Engineering head below.
Nice!
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 08:52 PM
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Well, time for the latest dilemma.

I have the new head on, all the stuff bolted up... but after the rocker arm is in it's clear that there is a huge gap (15 mm for the largest gap) between the valve stem and the rocker. It's so large that I have extended out the tappet adjustment screw as far as I can and still have a lock nut and it won't reach the valve.

I pulled the rocker back off and compared the new push rods with the old, they appear to be the same.

So now I have 2 possibilities that I can think of:

1) Turner did some kind of voodoo magic that makes the rockers not reach
2) My cam is fucked

When I turn the cam from the front, the pushrods all pop up in sequence as you would expect. Vacuum pump is also being pumped. So I don't really think the cam is the problem.

I am going to e-mail turner and ask them if there is something special I need to do, but in the meantime, has anyone heard of anything like this?
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 08:55 PM
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Pics of the rocker.... You can see the one extended out all the way on the left, and the large gap on the rightmost valve.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 10:35 PM
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Pics of the rocker.... You can see the one extended out all the way on the left, and the large gap on the rightmost valve.
Are ypu sure the lifter is in place?
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Any chance you can rub a port map of the intake and exhaust ports of the Turner head?

I'd love to see if they did any dimensional changes to the stock config
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 02:40 AM
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Turner does not modify the ports, except that they fettle the area of the head under the valves and around the stem for improved flow, and cut 3 angle valve seats.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 10:32 AM
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Are ypu sure the lifter is in place?
I'm a little confused by this question... do you mean is the rocker shaft seated properly? I appears to be.

Frida from Turner Engineering got right back to me overnight, and she said that they have never heard of this problem before. She wants me to check some thickness measurements and get back to them.

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If you look down the hole where the pushrod goes, there should be the cam lifter (As mentioned above)

This is a roller type thing, which on top, has a bronze type "H" shaped thing, that the pushrod sits into, and this H shaped follower sits on the roller (see the pic below, explains it easier)

http://forums.lr4x4.com/uploads/1205...2_493_5050.jpg

You sure this is in place?
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 10:47 AM
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Ahhhhh.... OK gotcha. I'll triple check, but they weren't pulled out when I had the head out.

But... it doesn't mean they didn't disintegrate when the engine blew.
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Also check to make sure that the base of the pushrod is properly seated in the "H" shaped thingy. It is possible to drop them down in there too far, which would also create the situation you are describing.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 01:40 PM
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Well, the lifters are in there, and the pushrods sit in them pretty easily, you would have to really work to get them not in the sockets on the lifters.

I'm gonna have to pull the head again (yay for 100 dollar head gaskets) and look at the lifters. If they look OK, I'll have to pull the cam.
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