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Old August 20th, 2014, 09:54 AM
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Another brand of wheel carrier

Has anyone seen in the metal or used one of these wheel carriers?

http://www.safari-equip.co.uk/shop/i...l-carrier.html
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Old August 20th, 2014, 10:52 AM
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Why has no one thought of that before? Seems like a logical approach, carry the weight...
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Old August 20th, 2014, 11:10 AM
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I wonder if it depends on the door to bear part of the load. The hinge looks sturdy enough, but the bracket on the cross member looks pretty small to me.

I could be wrong, of course...
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Old August 20th, 2014, 11:41 AM
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Am I seeing that it opens with the swing door? No two step process?

------ Follow up post added August 20th, 2014 08:42 AM ------

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I wonder if it depends on the door to bear part of the load. The hinge looks sturdy enough, but the bracket on the cross member looks pretty small to me.

I could be wrong, of course...
At first I thought that as well, but I think the bracket is that whole area where the step is.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 11:45 AM
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I've send them an email looking for more information, including a photo of the chassis mount without a bumperette. Install instructions would help to. There is clearly something going to the door.

I love Clay's mount, but since I have a pintle attached to the crossmember, that would take some modifications before it would work.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 11:51 AM
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This one is just like the standard mantec, LR and Britpart swing away for station wagons. I don't see a difference. they all mount to the door with a strut. Primary load is by the brackets on the pivot ends bolted through the rear crossmember and capping. the door part only supports a marginal amount of weight, not load bearing. the connecting piece is a plastic strut so the door is stabilized and opens with the door. no two part opening.

the only thing unique here is ability to use it on a tailgate.
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We've carried the Kaymar stuff for a bit and they have basically a more stout two step version that lets you use a tailgate instead of a half door (side swing "tailgate")

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I may be going through Gig Harbor some time in the next few weeks. May need to make a stop.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 12:25 PM
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I may be going through Gig Harbor some time in the next few weeks. May need to make a stop.
Please do, would love to see your new truck…
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Old August 20th, 2014, 12:32 PM
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This Safari Equip wheel carrier is nothing like the Britpart or Mantec wheel carrier.

It is a single pivot wheel carrier which we have fitted to our black 110. It does not require any drilling of the bodywork, however it does require some holes in the rear cross member to take some anti crush cans as the rear cross member is sandwiched between the main mounting pivot and the backing plate.

The door mounting plate just bolts onto the normal holes in the rear door. The connection to the main arm is a sliding mechanism.

The wheel carrier is a one stage operation and all you have to do is open the rear door and the wheel carrier opens with the door.

It will only work with tailgates if they are side mounted half doors. Pre and post 2002 versions are available.

This wheel carrier is not very tolerant of Defender build tolerances. It is made from mild steel and Safari Equip have had issues with their powder coaters. The powder coating firm has changed ownership so hopefully the issues on the coating will be rectified.



If you are going to consider wheel carriers in my opinion the Nakatanenga one is currently the best one available in the UK available here We have one fitted to one of our Defenders.




The Nakatanenga one is powder coated stainless steel so no rust issue here.

A straight forward fit. Two holes in the rear cross member need enlarging from 8mm to take 10mm bolts.

It is a simple bolt on job for the door. The connection from the door is via two stainless ball and socket jobs which takes care of Land Rover build tolerances.

There is tailgate/pickup version in the pipeline.


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Old August 20th, 2014, 12:58 PM
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We've carried the Kaymar stuff for a bit and they have basically a more stout two step version that lets you use a tailgate instead of a half door (side swing "tailgate")
Would this work when a pintle is fitted and the spare is a 255/85-16 ie 33 inches?

Very very expensive.
SEL 00 - Single Pivot Wheel Carrier, Powder Coated £345.00 + Vat
SEL 00G - Single Pivot Wheel Carrier, Galvanised & Powder Coated £420.00 + Vat
Obviously we don't pay vat.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 02:41 PM
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Anything IMO would be an improvement over the OEM soft top carrier. I like this idea. Would be nice if they could incorporate a vertical 3rd brake light arm that goes over the tire too.

I may be wrong, but this one actually looks like the spare is centered on the back of the truck too, which looks better (again, IMO)
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Old August 20th, 2014, 02:51 PM
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Has anyone seen in the metal or used one of these wheel carriers?

http://www.safari-equip.co.uk/shop/i...l-carrier.html
How would this work on an NAS rear cross member with the step in place? I like this one a lot.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 03:16 PM
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Would this work when a pintle is fitted and the spare is a 255/85-16 ie 33 inches?

Very very expensive.
SEL 00 - Single Pivot Wheel Carrier, Powder Coated £345.00 + Vat
SEL 00G - Single Pivot Wheel Carrier, Galvanised & Powder Coated £420.00 + Vat
Obviously we don't pay vat.

For shipping a single carrier to the USA you would be looking at about £80-90

So standard Safari Equip would cost about £430 or about 735 USD delivered


Stainless Nakatanenga wheel carrier delivered to USA would be about 960 USD



Kaymar mild steel one is 968 USD plus possible shipping costs within the USA



These are all single pivot wheel carriers and vastly superior to Britpart or Mantec offerings.



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Kaymar mild steel one is 968 USD plus possible shipping costs within the USA
Not quite.

We retail either Kaymar version at $849.99…

+ USA Shipping from our WA warehouse.
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To me, the Allisport solution seemed the best, but I'm guessing this one would be spendy.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 04:03 PM
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Not quite.

We retail either Kaymar version at $849.99…

+ USA Shipping from our WA warehouse.

I got my price from Outback Proven website which I got from the Kaymar website. Remember I am on the other side of the pond!


The Alisport wheel carrier was designed by Matthew and know as the Sonic wheel carrier. Last price I heard about the Alisport one was £1,080 inc UK VAT.


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I got my price from Outback Proven website which I got from the Kaymar website. Remember I am on the other side of the pond!


The Alisport wheel carrier was designed by Matthew and know as the Sonic wheel carrier. Last price I heard about the Alisport one was £1,080 inc UK VAT.


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How would this work on an NAS rear cross member with the step in place? I like this one a lot.
It looks to me like you would have to modify the bumper to fit one of those carriers. The best bet would probably have someone weld it together so the NAS bumper and tire carrier are one piece. I'm not a fabricator though...
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