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Old August 18th, 2014, 01:24 PM
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Adding Electronic Sensors to Older Defenders

This may sound like heresy but I was wondering if anyone has done any work or considered adding electronic sensors to older Rovers? I have been working with the various kits such as Arduino and with the various sensors and devices that are available and I thought it would be fun to add devices for sensing temperatures, pressures etc. I wouldn’t suggest adding devices for controlling any functions since these devices wouldn’t stand up to abuse.
Some ideas:
· An infrared camera under the hood to observe and monitor temperatures and hot spots.
· Temperature sensors on the engine, transmission, transfer case, differentials etc.
· Pressure sensors (on my truck the rocker cover internal pressure to tell me when the oil breather cap will be launched)
· Sound sensors (listening to the various sounds the vehicle emits in different driving conditions can reveal a lot about stresses and strains)
Anyone interested in coming up with some designs?
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Old August 18th, 2014, 01:40 PM
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If I were going to do it, I'd make everything CAN-bus and not screw around with breadboarded hack.
Dash would be an iPad or similar touch screen with virtual gauges. Viddy bus for under hood and backup cameras, virtual see thru hood, and rear end. Stuff like tire pressure and temp monitoring, on-the-fly tuning, etc very easy to add in.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 01:41 PM
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I'd start simply with a data logger and temp sensors, then add a display.

Have you looked at the Rover gauge project which reads direct from the ECU on V8 engines. It would be great to combine that data with other measurements.
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Bill, there is an CAN-bus interface module for the Arduino. The reason I would suggest using Arduino is that it is cheap and there are numerous sensors and interfaces available. It also doesn't require an engineering degree to build

Jason I did a search on Rover gauge project but came up empty. Any suggestions?

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Jason I did a search on Rover gauge project but came up empty. Any
https://code.google.com/p/rovergauge/
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Jason, thanks. I will take a look at this. I installed a boost gauge and voltmeter on my truck so far and have been considering an EGT gauge.


I thought I should begin with some Defender unique sensors such as:

1. Water ingress
2, Air leaks
3. Diesel fumes
4. Interior temperature
5. Noise level
6. Vibration
7. G forces
8. Inclination angle
9. Oscillations
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Old August 19th, 2014, 02:40 PM
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What about a madman gauge ?

Land rover sensor pkg available.
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Rob, not sure which type of sensor to use to measure madman? Blood pressure, pulse rate, pupil dilation, scream levels (with expletive detection)?

When I was learning to fly helicopters we used to put on sensors for fun to see what happened to the body in stressful situations like the first time student did an autorotation.

I still use a pulse oximeter when flying close to the altitude boundaries where oxygen is required.
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bottom line, the beauty and main difference between adding electronics to old rovers vs new, is that when they go to shit, you don't get stranded or stuck in some stupid limp mode.

No electronics I have added to mine will ever leave me stranded. All I need is 1x 12v wire and a spare fuel stop solenoid in a faraday cage to put invading aliens in my rear view mirror
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Rob, not sure which type of sensor to use to measure madman? Blood pressure, pulse rate, pupil dilation, scream levels (with expletive detection)?

When I was learning to fly helicopters we used to put on sensors for fun to see what happened to the body in stressful situations like the first time student did an autorotation.

I still use a pulse oximeter when flying close to the altitude boundaries where oxygen is required.

? Maybe your new to these trucks.... But madman gauges are well known.



MadMan Engine Monitoring and Protection Systems.

https://www.google.com/search?q=madm...&client=safari

Even has pitch and roll.....perfect for a pilot.
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Rob, I am a "newbie" to the Defender in the short 6 months of ownership I have become very intimate with the workings and goings on in Defenderland.

Thanks I thought you were joking when you used the term madman! Their EMS unit looks neat.

I was thinking of something more "upscale" like an IPAD display. Or perhaps a 60" LED screen mounted on the side of the truck which could be used to play Zombie movies while driving.

------ Follow up post added August 19th, 2014 03:36 PM ------

Mark I don't worry too much about aliens. My only worry are the deer that dart out in front of my truck but with the big bush bar I installed I feel safer that when I do hit one I can continue driving home and carve up the carcass when I get home.

However I do worry about Zombies. Most of the people who drive in my neighborhood seem to be brain dead in spite of many of them having attended to attending or working at the university.
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No problem sir.

I am very interested in seeing what you come up with.
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