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Old June 2nd, 2016, 11:58 PM
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AC Install - Should i Do it??

My 1991 D110 200tdi is getting some work done in the UK. I reached out to CoolAir Logan (I believe they supply the AC units that Rovers North Sells) and they gave a quote to install under dash AC in my truck for $3,700 installed. Work would be done in the UK at their factory. What do you think? Is this a reasonable price? Seems like a lot of $$ but I would really like to have AC. I don't have the skills to self install so I would have to pay a shop to do it once the truck is stateside.

Looks like the kits alone are around $3,400 on Rovers North.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 12:10 AM
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I love having AC in my 110 200tdi. It is routinely 100F where I live in the summer. Makes it enjoyable. And I went a used OEM system, cold as can be but if I was to do it again I would look at a custom system with better vent placement and second row AC (or add in that unit from RN)
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 12:21 AM
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I love having AC in my 110 200tdi. It is routinely 100F where I live in the summer. Makes it enjoyable. And I went a used OEM system, cold as can be but if I was to do it again I would look at a custom system with better vent placement and second row AC (or add in that unit from RN)
Thanks. How much was your unit? What's wrong w the vent placement and does it affect your leg room (I'm 6'4")?

They did quote me to do a read unit as well. Does that take the place of a middle rear seat??
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 07:03 AM
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I installed the OEM system and I think it's lousy. If I had it to do over I probably wouldn't.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 09:06 AM
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I would really like to have AC.
If you want it then get it! It's only money.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 01:07 PM
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Thanks. Another question. If I put in the AC, would I still have room in the 200tdi to install an upgraded intercooler to try and get a little extra juice out of my engine?
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 01:11 PM
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If you want it then get it! It's only money.
lol...my mother used to say the same thing...it was a sure-fire way to stop me from spending money
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 02:20 PM
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Thanks. Another question. If I put in the AC, would I still have room in the 200tdi to install an upgraded intercooler to try and get a little extra juice out of my engine?
Intercooler isn't going to suddenly make a 200 tdi less of a tractor. You have multiple threads going on at once on AC.

Why don't you go sit in a local defender with AC to figure out the leg room issue then if you are okay with it make your decision if you even want it.

Personally I would open the windows and leave the AC out.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 02:34 PM
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Thanks. Another question. If I put in the AC, would I still have room in the 200tdi to install an upgraded intercooler to try and get a little extra juice out of my engine?
I know of a tdi with standard size cooler and ac and it runs well. The bigger cooler will allow you to turn up the fuel but then that another whole can of worms with a tdi you'd need to get comfortable with. Personally it doesn't take much getting comfortable in the middle or right lane and letting the engine do what comes natural.
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 02:46 PM
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I know of a tdi with standard size cooler and ac and it runs well. The bigger cooler will allow you to turn up the fuel but then that another whole can of worms with a tdi you'd need to get comfortable with. Personally it doesn't take much getting comfortable in the middle or right lane and letting the engine do what comes natural.
Thank you for your feedback. I am with you on this. Getting ahead of myself.

Yes, sorry about the multiple AC threads.
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Will have AC installed prior to importation cause issues with CBP?
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Will have AC installed prior to importation cause issues with CBP?
no...most of the Arkonik trucks coming in have aftermarket a/c installed.
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Thanks. Another question. If I put in the AC, would I still have room in the 200tdi to install an upgraded intercooler to try and get a little extra juice out of my engine?
I would not worry about it. Unless you put a different turbo on, that can produce a lot more boost, a larger intercooler will do nothing for you. I've tested larger intercoolers at stock boost levels and there is no change is possible power levels.
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I would not worry about it. Unless you put a different turbo on, that can produce a lot more boost, a larger intercooler will do nothing for you. I've tested larger intercoolers at stock boost levels and there is no change is possible power levels.
Ok. Good to know. Thank you
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"does a/c effect leg room"

Most assuredly. I'm 6'5 and there have been several trucks we have installed a/c in that I was literally operating the clutch pedal with my left big toe afterwards.
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Old June 6th, 2016, 05:35 PM
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"does a/c effect leg room" Most assuredly. I'm 6'5 and there have been several trucks we have installed a/c in that I was literally operating the clutch pedal with my left big toe afterwards.
Thanks. Would extended seat rails help mitigate this issue?
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A/C was the most useless modification I ever did to my 1994 D90 soft top - but it might be better in a hardtop.

I bought my system about 9 years ago from Rovers North and had it installed. Passenger froze and the driver roasted because the system was clearly designed (and poorly so) for a right hand vehicle.
My total cost came to about $5,000 so $3,700 sounds cheap, but what happens if you need service? Also, how good are the mechanics who are going to install it?

If you have a 200/300TDI and are using the a/c you will have to shut it off when starting out in first gear on steep inclines or the engine will stall. I had a modified 300 TDI and 4:11 gears and it still stalled.
Also, the a/c radiator sat between a large aftermarket intercooler and the stock engine radiator and so I had problems with air flow and cooling.
All in all a waste of $5,000.
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Yes the ones mud UK sells. Use the second set of holes (there are two), ie set the drivers seat back as far as possible.

Another suggestion if your truck still has the yachtsman's wheel is to go to a smaller diameter steering wheel so that as a larger driver you have a little more room, the vehicle drives tighter with a smaller wheel and you do not need the leverage that the huge wheel was designed to give if you have power steering. The seat rails lift the drivers seat about 1.25 or so and that is the space between your thigh and the lower edge of the steering wheel.
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You could do this and save about $3650.

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You could do this and save about $3650. https://youtu.be/ITtlxjvLQis
That is an awesome swamp cooler. Perfect for sleeping in back of truck for burning man
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