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Old April 10th, 2013, 05:20 PM
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AC for the Kids

Hey guys,
I thought i would share my AC project.
My problem is my kids dont get any air, and we all know Defenders are not known for there powerful AC. So I found a guy who does custom work, and a shop thats going to help him with the project. They are installing a separate condenser and fans under the truck, and the evaporator will be under the rear seat (i have a 110). the controls will be the same, and will be controlled when the main AC is on. The vents will come out of the center behind the center console and point upwards to the left and right. I mentioned I drive off road and in water so hopefully they will plan to make it durable. My main concern is how much it will affect the engine performance. Im not concerned about gas mileage, but that constant "shake" when the truck is at idle and the AC is on is not a fun experience. Im doing research now with my mechanic to see if we can adjust the idle.
Any other things I should ask about?
I will definitely try and post pictures and part numbers in case anyone wants to try and duplicate the process.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 05:28 PM
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This is on my to do list as well.

Here are my potential vendors. The Red Dot has my attention right now. They have an under floor model that might fit. All of these may tie into the existing system and are not necessarily stand alone.

http://www.oldairproducts.com/catalog/hurricane-trunk-units/ip-2000t/ac-system-p-4460.html

http://www.classicautoair.com/trunk-air-conditioner.html

http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air-conditioning/id-265-compact-heat-and-air-evaporator-unit-387.php

http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air-conditioning/id-220-in-dash-heat-air-evaporator-unit-98.php

http://www.rdac.com/sites/default/fi...Headliners.pdf
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Old April 10th, 2013, 06:23 PM
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If you have an ECU the AC should signal to say its on which raises the idle automagically.
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I have no idea if this works...but it might be just enough to save you a large amount of money.....

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Old April 11th, 2013, 10:57 AM
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parts so far
http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air...shroud-839.php
located under the truck under the passenger side.
http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air...r-only-101.php
this is going under the back seat in the center.
we are also rigging a duct that will be extended do the carseat will have more direct air.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 11:39 AM
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Good stuff. Please post pictures as you proceed.
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Ok this is under the frame. It does not stick out at all.
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This is under the back seat the actual vents them selves point to the cargo area but I have a hose that re directs it to the second row. Strange thing is even with out the hose the air seems to re circulate to the second row anyways.
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 02:40 PM
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The tubes and wires just went the into the carpet.
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 02:42 PM
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I don't know if this is a helpful photo but those tubes come from the carpet to under the car. I asked them to make sure that its sealed because I do drive through water. So far it works great. They charged it to 3.9 lbs. and it's blowing ridiculously cold. Kid and dog are very happy.
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Are you tying into the existing lines going to the engine compressor?
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Cool stuff.

How are you planning on finishing off the vents in the back seat. Will their be louvers and directional vents mounted somewhere? Any pics?

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Umm, I would have concerns about duarability and longevity of the fan motors and the condensor fins in that set-up, even if one only drove in pristine fresh water.
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Umm, I would have concerns about duarability and longevity of the fan motors and the condensor fins in that set-up, even if one only drove in pristine fresh water.
What about a metal (plate) splashguard of some kind mounted against the bottom of the floor on the left (fore) of the earlier photo, then coming down on a 45 degree angle near the top of the rub rail? That way road debris would (mostly) be deflected but airflow/drainage wouldn't be effected.
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Umm, I would have concerns about duarability and longevity of the fan motors and the condensor fins in that set-up, even if one only drove in pristine fresh water.
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Hose to car seat. As for the durability I understand the concerns and I looked at it this way. This is my everyday lets go to the mall truck. I don't have another car, so It out weighted the hey I might have to be careful with this off road compared to sweating profusely in the Florida heat.
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This is great stuff. I have been using www.swampy.net evap cooler which works great if it's not too humid. I am installing a 4.6 next month and really want to put in a proper AC unit in my 130. The Red Dot looks great but will probably go with Vintage Air.
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