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Old November 2nd, 2007, 08:55 PM
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A Pilar Support Bolts/Screws

Need some help finding longer bolts/screws for the A pilar supporst. More specifically bolts with the same pitch and style as the ones I've removed. These are the four bolts that connect the fender to the bulkhead and hold the A pilar support in place. My truck is an ex mod and the existing bolts are only about 20mm long and have a very flat pitch and the threads are very square not angular like typical bolts. I suspect these are british type since the head size is slightly larger than 13mm. The picture below is not to good but every little bit helps. So if you know the type or size of these it would be much appreciated.

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Ok, I did some research and found that it maybe an Acme type thread? Looks very similar to the picture below.

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Old November 2nd, 2007, 09:00 PM
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Many people just use lag bolts in place of the correct ones.

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Old November 2nd, 2007, 10:35 PM
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I doubt they are Acme threads. Those are precision threads, and I can't think of any reason they would have been used for body parts on a rover!
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 01:16 AM
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I doubt they are Acme threads. Those are precision threads, and I can't think of any reason they would have been used for body parts on a rover!
Yeah, its not like Rover has precision clearances on seals, gaskets, body panels etc!
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 03:40 AM
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Can you just tap out the hole to take a more regularly available bolt of your choice?
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 11:12 AM
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I've wondered about those bolts myself. When I used the parts catalog and ordered one from LR, I got the shorter bolt - not the NAS bolt. LR uses that thread in several places on the vehicle. It is not being used for a captured nut, just an automotive fastner like those used for the door hinges on the A pillar. Basically, you just need something strong. If you are determined to find the correct bolts, Rovers North might be a source - they can normally source things I can't find elsewhere (at a price )
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 12:49 PM
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Jim, Jim & Chris, thanks for your replies. If I can find the right bolts I will definitely go that way. If that becomes futile then I will have to try something else.

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Old November 3rd, 2007, 06:15 PM
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ummm, just get em from rovers north. or one of the other usual suspects. I have a whole drawer full of em. They are worth the money as they will actually come out when you need them to. unlike a machine screw or other fastener of your devising it will work exactly as intended. not sure what the problem is? (besides my smarmy attitude)



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Jim, Jim & Chris, thanks for your replies. If I can find the right bolts I will definitely go that way. If that becomes futile then I will have to try something else.

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Old November 3rd, 2007, 06:23 PM
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Dave,

The problem is the stock ones in the ex mod are only 20mm long. I am adding the A pillar support which is 1/8" thick plus I need a washer/plate because the support has elongated holes. Overall the bolts need to be about 30mm long.

Do you have 8 that are 30mm long that you want to part with?

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ok you are adding a roll cage. now I get it. I will go look. my guess is no

btw I have haad zero success trying to find this thread type and pattern anywhere other than LR suppliers.

one of the land rover mags years ago had an article about a guy that started a business selling fasteners for LR's. I think it was called, oddly enough, "Land Rover Fasteners."

this is the best link I could find:

Land Rover Fasteners in Bolton- 01204 302589

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Dave,

The problem is the stock ones in the ex mod are only 20mm long. I am adding the A pillar support which is 1/8" thick plus I need a washer/plate because the support has elongated holes. Overall the bolts need to be about 30mm long.

Do you have 8 that are 30mm long that you want to part with?

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Old November 4th, 2007, 04:20 PM
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A lag bolt works. Just cut off the sharp point if it bothers you.

Its not rocket science.

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Ok Jim, Rocket science is out and I'm using the lag bolt. Have you had any problem with them getting loose on you. Do you use loctite when you do this?


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Old November 6th, 2007, 02:04 AM
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I never use them. I always use the correct hardware LOL


Actually the spring tension from the clip will keep it fastened. Can I have your old short ACME bolts?

Good luck with it.

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So looking a this flow, does anyone know the actual pitch? I think I used a 50 pitch.
I have just re-installed my fast back top and bought new bolts. I got 20 to 30 mm bolts with hex heads. The only hardware store here - Southern california - with them is The Do It Center. Reminds me very much of the ACE hardware stores in NJ/PA. Same plastic bin set up for stuff. Al the big stores + Osh (Sears) didn't carry metric.
Prices 0.85 to 1.05 a piece(steel?) + 0.20 a washer (stainless)
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George (RDS) lists the part number as AM605101
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