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Old July 14th, 2013, 12:46 AM
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97 Stuck in Park

Every once in a while when I go to drive, the shifter stays stuck in park. I giggle it. Stop and start the engine. Apply the e-brake. Release the e-brake. Basically try a variety of actions. Finally the shifter becomes unstuck. No issues with starting. I always press the brake pedal when starting if that matters.

From past threads I have read about metal clip issues and brake switches going bad.

Does this sound like a clip issue or a brake switch issue? I was leaning towards the clip. Will take a look at it tomorrow.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 01:12 AM
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I used to have the exact same issue with my 97. Usually I would prise off the top cover of the auto shifter with a small flat head screwdiver and re-clip the little metal clip and be on my way. Later I replaced the clip and haven't had the issue since on my 104,000 mile Defender. Spare yourself the pain in the arse explaining to the valet how to get your truck out of gear.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 08:23 AM
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Parking sensor...
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Old July 14th, 2013, 10:20 AM
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Brake light switch is out of adjustment...but when they do what yours is doing it normally means that it is on it's way out. Replace it.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 11:28 AM
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That is what I meant... I carry a spare, just in case.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 01:47 PM
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Brake light switch is out of adjustment...but when they do what yours is doing it normally means that it is on it's way out. Replace it.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 06:33 PM
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Looking at it closer, appears the shifting failure happens 50% of time. Found the brake light switch. Removed it. Pushed the button back and forth. Made sure no crud on it. Put it back in and connected it back up. Same isssue happens.

Just to note...I have no issues with brake lights staying on or anything like that. Some of the other threads mentioned that.

Doesn't that mean the switch is fine?

The other clip solution....I removed the shifter plate but did not see any clip anywhere. What am I looking for?
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Old July 14th, 2013, 08:22 PM
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You should be able to see a metal clip, it's probably a rectangular sheet-metal type on top of the post in the shifter. It holds the rounded piece of plastic underneath taught againts the portion of the shifter that you push in with your thumb/hand in order to unlock the shifting mechanism when changing gears. I've attached a pic of mine, you can see I have a circlip in place of the original type clip but that's where it should be. Hope that helps.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 09:26 PM
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Thanks Baird, I just confirmed the clip is not the issue. Original square clip is still there and locked in.

I am beginning to think its the "interlock solenoid". I do hear a click by the shifter when turning the key. Will go read up on that next.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 10:10 PM
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You should be hearing the click when you press the brake pedal, not when you turn on the ignition.


I agree with the advice above, just remove the damn thing, it's just nanny state interference to keep you from pulling a full Audi out of your driveway.
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Old July 15th, 2013, 08:48 PM
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So now I am trying to figure out how to remove the solenoid.....Am I suppose to remove the entire console to get to it? I read other threads but nothing is really spelt out on what to do.
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Old July 15th, 2013, 11:17 PM
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The shifter operates a push-pull cable that in turn operates a shift lever on the side of the transmission. You have to get the shifter mechanism out so that you can remove the interlock plunger from the side of the shifter "box".
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Old July 16th, 2013, 12:10 AM
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Maybe the better question to ask is.....is this a DIY job?

o2batsea, I understand what you are saying.....but how do I do that? Do I need to remove the entire console....or is there a way to loosen the shifter and squeeze it out. I am not seeing any screws or bolts.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 06:32 AM
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I dunno about a Defender but on a RRC you have to take the entire console apart. It's a DIY job as long as you keep track of all the fasteners.
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Old July 17th, 2013, 03:12 PM
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With the help of Briggs I was able to figure out how to get to the solenoid and remove it.

After removing the console, I took apart the shifter and the tower to get to the side plate. The side plate has 4 screws that holds it together. Remove the screws and I had to wack the plate a few times with the back of a screw driver to make it release from the side. The metal side plate was held together with rtv or something.

From here I used my cheap harbor freight snap tool to remove the large snap ring from the solenoid. Placed the solenoid on the side still connected via wires. Temporarily put the shifter back together and tested. Truck now shifts out of park.

With the console out...I am thinking of freshening it up a little. Fix one of the cracks on it, paint etc.
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Old July 17th, 2013, 03:42 PM
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Great! Welcome to the un-solenoid club. Does the Defenders have the thing on the transfer case shift linkage that keeps you from moving the lever if the gearbox is not in neutral or park? That's another anti-stupidity feature that I usually delete.
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