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Old August 16th, 2012, 02:21 PM
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94 D90 Hardtop

Were the hardtops on the '94 D90's made of metal or fiberglass?
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Old August 16th, 2012, 02:26 PM
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Both.

POE (point of entry) were metal, all others (like what you'd see in '95 and '97) were fiberglass. Post a photo or link to the ad if you have questions.
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Old August 16th, 2012, 02:57 PM
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As far as I know, only the 94 and 97 ST NAS (real ones) and some military models have fibreglass tops (usually with no windows and green in colour). On the ST NAS it was an option and was grey in colour, but I think there are some black ones too. All others with hard tops are considered SW models and have aluminium tops. There is a place in Florida that sells black hard tops and they can be colour matched to body colour.
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Hopefully this is not too large for the forum. Fiberglass or metal???
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Old August 16th, 2012, 03:13 PM
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That is a POE top like I referenced above and is aluminum. It's been for sale now for a solid year or two. It may have switched hands along the way, but definitely not kept long if so.

Here is all you'll need to know about that particular truck.

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=39173
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Old August 16th, 2012, 03:42 PM
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That truck is at a dealership about an hour from me. I called on it a few months back when I was looking and the salesperson I talked to had no clue what it was. He sounded confused and incredulous as I explained that it was a POE and had been repainted. I also tried to explain that it was ridiculously overpriced (37k at the time) and he said the price was firm. I see they have dropped the price 6 or 7k since then.
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Thought it was metal. Thanks.
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Amazing the way AA yellow trucks rarely have paint that matches. Doors are the worst culprit for obvious reasons
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The rear door is the dead give-away on a POE (point of entry) metal hard top. The upper half is metal and lifts upward. The NAS SW's have a swing away one piece door with the handle on the left side
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As far as I know, only the 94 and 97 ST NAS (real ones) and some military models have fibreglass tops (usually with no windows and green in colour). On the ST NAS it was an option and was grey in colour, but I think there are some black ones too. All others with hard tops are considered SW models and have aluminium tops. There is a place in Florida that sells black hard tops and they can be colour matched to body colour.
I'm not so sure of the accuracy of much of that statement, unless I'm misunderstanding you somehow. Fiberglass tops were an accessory of sorts and came with instructions to fit the cage of the '94 style, as well as the '95/'97 cage with the benefit of not having to remove the cage. The POE aluminum top was only at the very tail end of '94, but can fit all 3 years as long as a majority of the cage is removed. They all had windows (althought I should probably not speak in absolutes). The place in Florida I think you're talking about is www.D90tops.com and those do not come with the alpine roof windows as far as I can tell from the examples I've seen, but they seem to be willing to do just about anything for you.
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Old August 21st, 2012, 11:07 PM
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I was very interested in this truck but had some reservations after reading this thread:
http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=39173 . So I had a local Land Rover shop check it out, especially as to the rust issue. As to the rust they told me this: Yes, the rear cross member had a rust issue. I could either replace it or pressure wash it good, apply POR 15, and drive it for 10 years and then replace it. The only other issue of significant rust was in the box under the passenger sear. It had a long area about an inch wide that would have to be ground out and new metal welded in. Not a big deal. Oh, and a skid plate under the gas tank was FUBARed and should be removed and trashed. So if you're interested I wouldn't be scared of the truck, especially if you like to work on them. For me, been there, done that. I've rebuilt, from the frame up, enough 4x4's (OBS Bronco and FJ40). At 65 I just wanna buy and drive. The tech who checked it out for me said it was a good, solid truck. He was very positive about it. I have no reason to doubt him.
And while I'm on the subject, the truck is with Freeman Motor Co. in Portland. I found the salesman, Eric Barton, and his supervisor, Bill, to be honest, easy to work with, ethical, and very interested in maintaining a good relationship with their potential buyers. And they were more than patient with me. If they called me and said they had another truck that would fit me perfectly I'd be on the next jet. And I'm taking the time to recognize them because it's in my nature to do so and because used, excuse me, "preowned," car dealers generally have a bad rap.
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My 1.38 says that if there is rust in the areas mentioned there will be a pile of it in places you cant see and that if you dont disassemble these things on a regular basis will have no idea where to even look. I say this without malice or bad intent, but often see Defenders that have been inspected / cleared that are not in very good shape at all. I dont think that the inspectors in these cases have any bad intent but just dont have the experience. I would suggest having a specialist look it over first.
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Point taken, junkydog. Valid observations. The inspection in this case was by a man whose occupation is working on Land Rovers. Goes without saying that no one is perfect.
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Regardless, go drive the truck and inspect it yourself.... Go through everything, so you know what you are getting into.

We have all been through it, getting emotional prior to buying it. Keep it strictly business, until you sign the paperwork and hand over the check. Then you can be a giddy-school-girl when you are on your way home.

Maintenance history and rust are the two killers of Defenders. Look everywhere twice.
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Point taken, junkydog. Valid observations. The inspection in this case was by a man whose occupation is working on Land Rovers. Goes without saying that no one is perfect.
sorry, I missed the bit about the land Rover guy looking at it.......so I could get one step closer to perfection by taking the time to thoroughly read the post LOL.
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Point taken, junkydog. Valid observations. The inspection in this case was by a man whose occupation is working on Land Rovers. Goes without saying that no one is perfect.

I'm no LR expert, but as a former 2800cs owner I do know a thing or two about rust issues. I spent over an hour going over this D90 (a lot of it crawling around underneath) and there's a lot more rust than what you've mentioned. In many places I could've pushed my fingers through the metal if I had wanted and the rear portions of the frame had heavy rust. If you do buy this one, just go into it with your eyes open and as woldd90 said I would recommend you go look at it yourself. At $30,000+, not worth it IMHO as there are others out there for similar money in much better shape. I did noticed (looking at their pictures in the sale link) there's a lot more black spray paint covering the surface rust on the undercarriage than there was when I looked at it.



Edit: Just clicked on the link in your other thread and see it's sold. Enjoy, and I seriously hope your LR guy was right about the minimal rust he saw.
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Old August 22nd, 2012, 03:38 PM
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BTW, hope that's not taken as harsh, I just wouldn't have paid what they were asking for it, or near what they were asking...my opinion.
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