90 to 110 Conversion - What Do I Need? - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old July 10th, 2009, 09:04 PM
Wolf Fabrication's Avatar
Wolf Fabrication
Status: Offline
Sterling Archer
'08 D3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 7,453
Registry
90 to 110 Conversion - What Do I Need?

So I am contemplating converting my 90 to a 110. I did some quick searches and didn't find much on the subject detailing the parts involved.

Other than the obvious longer frame, extra doors and a 110 top, what parts are needed to convert an NAS?

Does anyone have a parts list?

Can I use my NAS 90 tub?

Is it easier/cheaper to just lengthen my stock 90 frame that's solid?

Anyone have the requisite parts?
__________________
"The most unreliable car in the world is the most reliable car in the world." -Jeremy Clarkson refering to the Range Rover


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Semper Fi!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old July 10th, 2009, 09:14 PM
Abrooks's Avatar
Abrooks
Status: Offline
Tony Brooks
.
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 4,926
http://travelswithrover.com/
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old July 10th, 2009, 10:22 PM
woldd90's Avatar
woldd90
Status: Offline
Scott
1997 D90 ST #1444
Site Team
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Georgia
Posts: 5,329
Talk with Dale... I believe that he has done this.
__________________
Scott

Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old July 11th, 2009, 05:40 AM
diesel_jim's Avatar
diesel_jim
Status: Offline
Jamie Austin
1992 110 Td5 CSW & 1989 MB G-Wagen
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Wiltshire, UK
Posts: 1,449
Off the top of my head:

110 rear tub
110 rollcage
rear propshaft
salisbury axle (the "rover" type 90 one will physically fit, but not up to the job strength wise if you load the 110 up)
110 rear springs
110 front-to-rear brake pipe
rear lights wiring harness (goes in the chassis)
110 fuel tank & fuel pipes



Bits that are the same:


all the front suspension (although you might want heavier springs...depends on what you're running at present on the 90)
Front axle
bulhead/wings/floor/seatbox/transmission tunnel/front doors etc
rear trailling arms
A frame
shock absorber top brackets
rubber flexible brake pipe may be long enough
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old July 11th, 2009, 08:12 AM
EWR's Avatar
EWR
Status: Offline
Carey
1954 CJ-3B
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 558
Don't forget about all the interior bits from the front seats back.

Like the trim pieces for the headliner, THE head liner set, etc..... I realize that these pieces may seem insignificant now, but they will add up. Yes you can find them used, but what condition are you looking for, how much do you want to spend?... see where I'm going with this?

It's not as simple as just " swapping" parts from your 90.

Have fun and post some pics!
__________________
What tree?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old July 11th, 2009, 08:22 AM
Wolf Fabrication's Avatar
Wolf Fabrication
Status: Offline
Sterling Archer
'08 D3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 7,453
Registry
Well, I need to find a 110 frame and tub first!
__________________
"The most unreliable car in the world is the most reliable car in the world." -Jeremy Clarkson refering to the Range Rover


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Semper Fi!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old July 11th, 2009, 08:32 AM
rover4x4's Avatar
rover4x4
Status: Offline
Phillip
1995 SW #487/500
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: The Old North State
Posts: 7,525
Registry
Why not just sale the 90 and buy a 110?
__________________
Poor gas mileage gets you to the best places on earth
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old July 11th, 2009, 08:48 AM
JohnsD90's Avatar
JohnsD90
Status: Offline
John
74 SIII 88", 88 110, 91 110
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 2,282
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by rover4x4
Why not just sale the 90 and buy a 110?
too easy
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old July 11th, 2009, 09:40 AM
EWR's Avatar
EWR
Status: Offline
Carey
1954 CJ-3B
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 558
Quote:
Originally Posted by rover4x4
Why not just sale the 90 and buy a 110?


That's the best advise. If you purchase a true NAS 110, it will hold a greater resale value than anything you try to build out of a 90. IMHO.
__________________
What tree?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old July 11th, 2009, 09:56 AM
Wolf Fabrication's Avatar
Wolf Fabrication
Status: Offline
Sterling Archer
'08 D3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 7,453
Registry
I don't have $40-60k for an NAS 110, and the 90 prices have tanked. My D90 is worth $6k less now than a year ago. And a 110 conversion is ridiculously easy if you can get the parts.

They are like Lego sets.
__________________
"The most unreliable car in the world is the most reliable car in the world." -Jeremy Clarkson refering to the Range Rover


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Semper Fi!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old July 11th, 2009, 10:16 AM
EWR's Avatar
EWR
Status: Offline
Carey
1954 CJ-3B
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 558
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Fabrication
I don't have $40-60k for an NAS 110, and the 90 prices have tanked. My D90 is worth $6k less now than a year ago. And a 110 conversion is ridiculously easy if you can get the parts.

They are like Lego sets.
True about the cost of a 110,... understood. But the rest is a really funny statement. How would you know how easy it is if you're asking " what parts do I need?".. ?
__________________
What tree?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old July 11th, 2009, 10:29 AM
Wolf Fabrication's Avatar
Wolf Fabrication
Status: Offline
Sterling Archer
'08 D3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 7,453
Registry
Are you kidding? I've been restoring cars for the past 15 years. Land Rovers are ridiculously easy to build, so it's pretty easy to make the logical jump that a 110 conversion would be easy. Asking what parts I need has nothing to do with how easy or hard the project will be.

Thanks for the advice.
__________________
"The most unreliable car in the world is the most reliable car in the world." -Jeremy Clarkson refering to the Range Rover


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Semper Fi!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old July 11th, 2009, 10:40 AM
Ren Ching's Avatar
Ren Ching
Status: Offline
Skinny Pete
'84 90 "Yamelo"/'88 RRC "Chewbacca"
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Downtown
Posts: 4,696
Registry
well i get where carey is coming from. Though I think you can handle it. Don't try to use the 90 frame, better to flog that to help with your costs. I think the most important question is whether you want a 3 door or 5 door. HT or ST NAS style? 3 door would require signifcantly less parts expenditure. You might do well to buy a complete 110 and sell the leftovers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Fabrication
Are you kidding? I've been restoring cars for the past 15 years. Land Rovers are ridiculously easy to build, so it's pretty easy to make the logical jump that a 110 conversion would be easy. Asking what parts I need has nothing to do with how easy or hard the project will be.

Thanks for the advice.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old July 11th, 2009, 11:04 AM
Hoosier's Avatar
Hoosier
Status: Offline
Chris Hinkle
More than I need
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 634
Having converted my 94 NAS 90 to a 110 double cab, I guess I've been through it. The hardest part is getting the body parts. You need to decide what kind of 110 you want and then start collecting parts. Some you can find new, some you will be able to find used in good condition. And it is going to cost $$$$. Unless you have a breaker in UK, I'd talk to Rovers Down South, Rovers North and Safari Rover. You may want to do a double cab, but end up going with something else because you can't find all the parts. Once all the parts are there, it's not hard to put it all together. Get a parts catalog for the 90/110 if you don't already have one.

Also, I think they phased out the Salisbury axle on the 110 - but you can still get them in UK (drum and disc versions).
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old July 11th, 2009, 11:18 AM
EWR's Avatar
EWR
Status: Offline
Carey
1954 CJ-3B
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 558
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Fabrication
Are you kidding? I've been restoring cars for the past 15 years. Land Rovers are ridiculously easy to build, so it's pretty easy to make the logical jump that a 110 conversion would be easy. Asking what parts I need has nothing to do with how easy or hard the project will be.

Thanks for the advice.
Your horses...reign them in. I didn't say it couldn't be done, or that it was beyond anyone's ability. I thought I tried to reply with some tact...sheesh.

Your original post was kinda vague on your "knowledge and ability", and I thought you were " in the dark".
__________________
What tree?
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old July 11th, 2009, 12:37 PM
Wolf Fabrication's Avatar
Wolf Fabrication
Status: Offline
Sterling Archer
'08 D3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 7,453
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by EWR
Your horses...reign them in. I didn't say it couldn't be done, or that it was beyond anyone's ability. I thought I tried to reply with some tact...sheesh.

Your original post was kinda vague on your "knowledge and ability", and I thought you were " in the dark".
Yeah, you offered no real advice, just criticism of my original post. I asked what parts were needed, not how hard it was. Please don't offer up any other witty comments...

I'd be building a 5 door. My 90 is already bleeding $$, so I figure why not dump more money into it?

Plus I have a hard time buying an '83/'84 sight unseen, so if I built one I would know the quality of vehicle.

Time to start the 110 parts collection!
__________________
"The most unreliable car in the world is the most reliable car in the world." -Jeremy Clarkson refering to the Range Rover


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Semper Fi!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old July 11th, 2009, 12:55 PM
EWR's Avatar
EWR
Status: Offline
Carey
1954 CJ-3B
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 558
Fair enough. Lone Wolf.....tool.
__________________
What tree?
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old July 11th, 2009, 01:06 PM
Wolf Fabrication's Avatar
Wolf Fabrication
Status: Offline
Sterling Archer
'08 D3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Oahu, HI
Posts: 7,453
Registry
Thanks again EWR for the sage advice. If you have an issue, shoot me a pm/email, don't use this forum.

Follow-up Post:

Wait, are you calling Lone Wolf, aka Chuck Norris a tool?
__________________
"The most unreliable car in the world is the most reliable car in the world." -Jeremy Clarkson refering to the Range Rover


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Semper Fi!
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old July 11th, 2009, 01:12 PM
diesel_jim's Avatar
diesel_jim
Status: Offline
Jamie Austin
1992 110 Td5 CSW & 1989 MB G-Wagen
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Wiltshire, UK
Posts: 1,449
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoosier

Also, I think they phased out the Salisbury axle on the 110 - but you can still get them in UK (drum and disc versions).
They changed the salisbury rear to a rover type axle, although it's not a 90 axle, more of a hybrid rangie P38/90/military Wolf XD type thing.

From what I hear from various people who use them, a salisbury is much better, and stronger (in standard form.... everything can obviously be upgraded, depending on how deep your pockets are)
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old July 11th, 2009, 03:35 PM
bjf's Avatar
bjf
Status: Offline
barry f
94 ST #395
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: los angeles
Posts: 10,963
Poor blue ST. One more that wont exist anymore. You should do alright on the sale of your 90 ST cage which will help offset some costs. Talk to ECR they seem to sell rolling 110 projects. There was just one on here. Don't forget a new exhaust system.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Tags
110, 90, conversion

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
110 rear disk brake conversion c2sox Defender Technical Discussions 14 September 23rd, 2016 06:23 PM
90 & 110 Parts Sale Extravaganza Wolf Fabrication For Sale - Parts 57 October 16th, 2012 09:35 AM
Best way across the US Mike Hippert Defender Technical Discussions 173 April 29th, 2010 04:56 PM
90 to 110 Conversion Leftovers Bits Pricing Wolf Fabrication Defender Technical Discussions 4 July 12th, 2009 10:54 AM
110 rolling chassis for 90 to 110 conversion evilfij For Sale - Parts 6 March 8th, 2007 08:41 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:00 PM.


Copyright