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Old January 12th, 2016, 12:03 AM
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Would you be hiring this swap out or doing it yourself?
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Old January 12th, 2016, 12:12 AM
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It doesn't matter if the liner moves, it won't cause any issue other than a tapping noise.
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Old January 12th, 2016, 02:33 AM
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Would you be hiring this swap out or doing it yourself?
. Oh no... I know my limitations. Will definitely be hiring it out. That way it will actually get done (assuming I scrounge up the $$) and has some chance of successfully running afterwards.

Routine maintenance and things like adding in jump seats and seat belts are about the limit to what I trust to myself.
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Old January 12th, 2016, 03:08 AM
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Will definitely be hiring it out
OK, so does anyone know of a shop on the west coast that has ever done a LS swap into a Defender? - I'm curious about LS swaps also, but I wouldn't want to hire it out to anyone who hasn't already done one or more of said swaps previously...
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Old January 12th, 2016, 07:04 AM
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Yea huh?
You could remove the liner from the block completely and pressurise the cooling system with no problem. The liner has nothing to do with keeping coolant out of the combustion chamber.
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Old January 12th, 2016, 07:57 AM
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The simple approach is to rebuild the 3.5 in there. It's underpowered but reliable and not prone to overheating. The second is a 4.0 swap from a DI, not the 3.9. Although these are the same engine the 4.0 has cross bolt support of the main caps and bigger crank journals. Pulling the bits needed includes the harness and ECU as well as the flywheel (which means going to a ZF or finding a FI V8 manual flywheel with the pulse ring for the crank sensor). FI over carbs is the only way to go. DI's are plentiful and a rebuild is straight forward. The bigger displacement engines offer more torque but you're dealing with the same block only bored or stroked. The tapping in the DII 4.6 is resolved by pinning the sleeves which is easy while the block in on an engine stand. If you happy with the 3.5 in the area you live then go that direction to save money. As for the leaking LT95 and xcase...well, it is a LR. As it has been said, "If it isn't leaking then it's out of oil".
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Old January 12th, 2016, 09:20 AM
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You could remove the liner from the block completely and pressurise the cooling system with no problem. The liner has nothing to do with keeping coolant out of the combustion chamber.
Really?
There's a video of it on my Facebook page ....
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Old January 12th, 2016, 09:30 AM
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Porosity in the casting behind the sleeve is the issue in many cases. When the sleeve and block expand at different rates the sleeve can move or at least allow coolant to flow upwards into the combustion area. Of course, a cracked/warped head or blown gasket will can cause the same symptoms.
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Old January 12th, 2016, 09:47 AM
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Really?
There's a video of it on my Facebook page ....
That is a cracked block, not a 'slipped sleeve.' If you machine the liner out, which I have had done, you will find a tiny crack in the block behind the sleeve.
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Old January 12th, 2016, 11:25 AM
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A Rover V8 is not a wet liner design.
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Old January 12th, 2016, 04:14 PM
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So, just go right to the source? - i like it, thanks!
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