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Old May 27th, 2009, 04:54 PM
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good point. Has Mills given you a total cost to swap in the 4.6 or just the cost of the motor? Anybody on here that has a 4.6 that they could sell you thats set up to drop in? Just to be clear Barry Im only asking all these questions because Im interested in doing the same thing not trying to be devils advocate or second guess you.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 04:59 PM
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No worries John I understand.
If I leave the truck at british car service, I have to use their parts. I can understand their point. They cant cover stuff you bring from outside. I understand it but the cheap bastard in me hates it.

I am checking my options right now. Shoot me a PM and we can talk more about what I have learned in the last couple days
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Old May 27th, 2009, 05:01 PM
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Tow it home and put my number on speed dial.

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Old May 27th, 2009, 05:11 PM
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Would that be for the expert advice or so you can send me the bank check for your newest purchase?
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Old May 27th, 2009, 05:19 PM
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One or the other, we would sort it out.

edit: print this out. Putting a V8 together from a short block is not that hard.

http://www.roversclub.org/docs/LRV8overhaulManual.pdf
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Old May 27th, 2009, 05:27 PM
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Why cant the instructions read like a Tamiya car. I cant understand half this crap.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 05:29 PM
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Send me pictures of it apart and I will use my ms paint skills to make directions.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 05:31 PM
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that would be awesome
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Old May 27th, 2009, 05:33 PM
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When do you call the tow truck?

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edit: putting a motor together is no harder than building a plastic model. For the most part, things only fit one way and you are not tearing it down to the point that anything is that complicated.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 05:40 PM
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Another shop I know has a built 4.6. seeing if I can get a deal.

Honestly what should I pay for it installed. engine and install. - can PM if you want
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Run away from rebuilt. Trust me on this, unless it came out of a wrecked truck and was fine and was "rebuilt" just cause, you don't want any rover block that has been "rebuilt" unless you know who did it and what was wrong with the motor to begin with.

Price depends on how well it was rebuilt.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 07:58 PM
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It was rebuilt by them out of a wrecked truck

Follow-up Post:

As of right now I am keeping the truck unless someone wants to pay me way too much for it. On that note tomorrow is D day for deciding which route to go with. I am mad but honestly the truck needs the work so there is nothing I can do. Even if I just go with a rebuild the truck should end up very nice.
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Barry, if it helps I was in this position with my D90 once. Repair shop tore into it before even doing the basics like a leakdown test etc. Wanted $1k just to put it back together. I said thanks but no thanks - put the bits in a box please and I'll have AAA tow it. It took me an afternoon, but I put it back together myself. I could have kept running it as-is until she really broke (had a tap/knock) but ended up getting a rebuild from pendy for a song. Had some friends help me install it.

So I suggest you do the same. Take the $600 hit and take your toy home. Shop around for a rebuilt one or have someone rebuild yours for you - anything will be cheaper than what you are being quoted.

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Where can one get rebuilt/new short blocks? The overheating/liner issues have made me leary to buy one.
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$3200 for a new 4.6 short block on sale at roversnorth. I would call Mikey at LR westchester or our friend on here at the colorado dealership and see if they can do better.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 10:12 PM
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Ron let me know what Mikey says. Also AB has one granted it is more money but it is already set up for a distributor motor
http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/9257F.cfm

I have heard conflicting things like the rovers north one wont work and that it is crap made in china
http://roversnorth.com/store/p-16338...ngine-46l.aspx

Also I have heard the original three row of bolts for a head gasket with the metal gasket works better and lasts longer.

You know what they say about opinions.. they are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.
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Barry, call Mikey yourself. He won't bite.

AB's is not worth it as it is $1300 for the to install a cam and a timing gear set ($300 in parts). Made in china? Doubtful unless the chinese bought the castings from rover. The original bolt pattern is worse than the two row, that is why they changed.

Another source is will tillary www.roverguy.com He parts out trucks and does the builds of the motors to freshen them up. He could probably set one up built as a drop in for you.

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BTW all this 4.6 sourcing talk makes relish the 4.6 short block in my closet even more.
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Old May 28th, 2009, 07:38 AM
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Seriously, the new 4.6 short block is the way to go. Have a machine shop redo the heads from the 3.9, install a new cam and use the front cover from the 3.9. Not a bad job and its worth the effort. This is what I did in my 110 and the difference in the engines is amazing. Rover should have sold this setup in the states.
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For a 4.6 install all you need to do for any dist truck is just find a good 4.6 short block install a dist cam from D&D and use all other items from your 3.9........the crank sensor hole will need to be plugged up and a spacer made for the crank pulley but thats it in a nut shell..........

oh and do it yourself saves tons of cash!

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Old May 28th, 2009, 08:46 AM
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yeah if I had the space to put it somewhere once towed home and happened to have any skill to put the engine in, the 4.6 would be great. No matter how I look at it, to have a shop do it I am looking at at least 2500 more than a nice top end rebuild on my current set up. 2500 that could be used for many other truck items. One shop swears by the old style gaskets (tin) claiming in all the years of work they have not seen nearly the issues with them compared to the compositie. Who knows.

If anyone in LA has the skills and the tools, I would happily tow it home for help
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