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Old August 2nd, 2007, 12:27 AM
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Any decision on the engine swap? This is a good thread, since I've been considering the same thing. I've got plenty of headroom left on my 4.0, but I'd like to buy the engine/parts now while they're still in supply and just store them until I need to do the swap. My D90 does both urban prowling and wheeling, so I'm kinda stuck. I like the longevity that the TDI would probably give me, but not sure about the noise and the exhaust soot. I do like the fact that a lot of people are tweeking diesels now to up the power. Plus ripping out the whole drive train front of the tc sounds like it would cause a bunch of headaches. You know how it goes. Go to fix one thing and find out 4 other things need 'fixing' too. Any other guys on here do the swap? What was involved in detail? My 97 D90 is an auto tranny.
I decided to do the 4.6. I'm going to drop in a new stock 4.6 gems short block and and probably go with new heads and transfer everything else from my 4.0, and re-chip the ecu for the 4.6. This project might start in a few weeks or around the end of the month, or at the latest sometime next month. I'm also going to do brakes, service everything, as well as a few interior repairs, clean the truck bottom/inside/outside, a few minor electrical repairs, and wax and buff the paint while I'm at it...

I'll post the outcome of it all...
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Old August 28th, 2007, 12:50 AM
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Have any of you all put a 4.6 in a '97?

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Also does anyone know what two chips need swapped out? And what I should swap in, P38 chips or something? I know it will run with the 4.0's chips but I figure I should go ahead and just get it all taken care of at once...
(It talks about the chips and stuff on one of ECR's jobs.)

Other then that I think I've figured everything out..
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Not to Hijack the thread or anything but I have a 4.6 in my D and it currently is overheating, blew a camshaft, has a leaking oil pan and rear main. It has 50K on it. I always wanted a diesel. Considering the work I have ahead of me I was considering pulling the 4.6 doing a top up rebuild with a piper cam and then sell it and pick up a 2.8. Worth it or no? (financially speaking)
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Old August 28th, 2007, 11:03 AM
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What camshaft did you use?
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haven't gotten it yet, was gonna order it today.
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Have any of you all put a 4.6 in a '97?

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Also does anyone know what two chips need swapped out? And what I should swap in, P38 chips or something? I know it will run with the 4.0's chips but I figure I should go ahead and just get it all taken care of at once...
(It talks about the chips and stuff on one of ECR's jobs.)

Other then that I think I've figured everything out..
Leave the stock chip in it you will be happier in the end.. the ECU will adjust.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 02:50 PM
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Originally, the one that went bad recently.

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haven't gotten it yet, was gonna order it today.
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The one that was in there was stock
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Considering the work I have ahead of me I was considering pulling the 4.6 doing a top up rebuild with a piper cam and then sell it and pick up a 2.8. Worth it or no? (financially speaking)
financially? no way. the only reason to go diesel is coz you want to. ymmv.
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haha yeah true. What should have probably said was do you think that the cost of a diesel is offset enough by the sale of a 4.6. I'm sure its not but the four puddles of various fluids under my truck make me feel that it is
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Sorry to propagate the hijack, but what exactly happened to your 4.6 Stephen? What was the cause of the overheating and how do you blow a camshaft?
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Well I really hate to admit this but I think it was my own fault. I tried to reseal my oil pan with the rite stuff and I think I put too much on and some of it went into an oil passage and starved out the #4 exhaust lobe. As for overheating, who knows. I've replaved everything but the head gasket so that's what will get replaced this time. Hopefully a new head gasket and a custom radiator will solve the problem. Hows your engine swap going?
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Did you have any prior problems with the 4.6 running hot? One of my neighbors (well not exactly neighbor, he lives 1/4 mile away on another street lol) has a 4.6 in his 110 and he said he has had problems with it cooling the motor and he has problems with how hot the cab gets.

I'm ordering my short block by the end of the week. Hopefully I will have all this and the other small things taken care of by in a few weeks and be back on the road...
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They longer you plan to keep your vehicle the more pay back you get from diesel. When figuring fuel costs an incredible number of people say "Well, diesel costs the same as gas here", ignoring the fact you get better mileage. And if you're the adventurous type, you can make your own fuel from used veggie oil and the costs go to less than $1 a gallon. Also, the more miles per year you drive the sooner you get your payback. I'm putting a 300tdi in my D90 and will be making my own fuel. When you consider the $40-$50 per week I spend on petrol, it's a no-brainer. Then again I like diesels, and hate all the computer crap on the V8's. Hell, I don't even like the electric windows in my Disco.
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Unless your time is worth nothing, making fuel out of "veggie oil" will be double (or probably more) the price of pump diesel so it's a weak argument. If you want your motor to last for years and care about what your blowing for exhaust it's a better argument.

I run B100 in all my trucks and I'd have to pretty much quit my "real" job to make it all. It (B100) can be bought from people who make it there job to produce which also helps to support and promote an industry we could all benefit from. Not to mention the fact that the sources for "free" WVO are drying up rapidly as the resturant owners etc clue in that the waste is actually worth something.
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Yes I did have problems with it overheating. I didn't when it was new but after some miles yes. As for heat in the cab.. Sometiems I can't where sandals because it burns my feet so yeah. Once my rebuild is done I'm going to try wrapping the exhaust and hopefully that will help
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Hows your engine swap going?
It went well other than I also still have an overheating issue (ever since I bought it though). This was likely the root cause of my engine problems. I'm about the replace the radiator so hopefully that will put this one to bed.

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If you're going to replace the radiator you might as well get a bigger, 5-row version.
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Not to Hijack the thread or anything but I have a 4.6 in my D and it currently is overheating, blew a camshaft, has a leaking oil pan and rear main. It has 50K on it. I always wanted a diesel. Considering the work I have ahead of me I was considering pulling the 4.6 doing a top up rebuild with a piper cam and then sell it and pick up a 2.8. Worth it or no? (financially speaking)
Its called character...Land Rover builds it into each one of their engines at a modest cost to the consumer.
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