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Old March 24th, 2015, 10:10 AM
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300tdi turbo possibilities...

So, after digging into getting my head off, I noticed loads of oil in the intake manifold, hoses and turbo. I'm not going to fork out $2k for a vnt right now, so are there any other turbos that are a bolt on affair that give a bit better perfornance from idle over the laggy stocker that comes on at 1800rpm or so? Is it possible to rebuild the factory turbo with uprated components to give better performance? If so, part numbers? I'm happy with the performance of the rover now, but it's just the lag from idle that kills me. Just not killing me enough to spend 2 grand on a vnt set up 😉 all advice is mucho apreciado👍
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Old March 24th, 2015, 10:13 AM
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VNT seems to be the only solution I am aware of that is bolt on. Though I am sure you could have a local performance shop source a cheapo VNT and make an adapter for your manifold.

I mean savings might be $500-$600 but you're also saving money on the only moving part... the turbo. Not sure I would want a cheap bolt on in that department.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 10:24 AM
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Yeah, not looking for cheap parts, I just wasn't sure if there were other turbos out there that were direct fit from other vehicles that had a little better scoot from idle. I'm not really into modifying the manifold, etc to fit something in place. Even better, would be rebuilding the factory turbo with different internals, but I'm not sure if that's even a thing😉
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Old March 24th, 2015, 10:25 AM
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just have a turbo shop rebuild it. will be much less.
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just have a turbo shop rebuild it. will be much less.
Call tri state turbo @ 201-857-0555. Great prices and quick rebuild work.
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That's the thing, I can rebuild it myself, but before ordering new guts for it, I was curious if there were any other alternatives out there besides putting in factory spec bits in that may give it a bit better pickup from a stand still. Not looking at an asphalt eater, just entertaining possibilities.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 10:43 AM
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If there was a cheap way, then everybody would be doing it.....and there would not be a market for the custom aftermarket conversions....

You will get a reasonable bump by turning up the off boost fueling, but at the expense of smoke until the boost kicks in.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 11:39 AM
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Simplest way is you could also get a 200tdi Disco manifold and hook up a VNT to that. in some conversions I've seen the exhaust runs out the back instead of the front so that would need to be rerouted. Also your intake is switched too. But others look straight forward
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I know that the Mitsubishi td04 water cooled turbo bolts up to in the factory location and has been reported to start pulling at 1300rpm-ish and give a bit more power through the rev range. Considering experimenting with that...
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the mitsubishi td04 is a good option. Just have to rout water through it. A metal T in the head instead of the straight out puts for the heater works best. You can also take the stock turbo adjust the waste gate and get better power from there. Looking to open my own shop if I can get enough of a client list to warrant that.
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the mitsubishi td04 is a good option. Just have to rout water through it. A metal T in the head instead of the straight out puts for the heater works best. You can also take the stock turbo adjust the waste gate and get better power from there. Looking to open my own shop if I can get enough of a client list to warrant that.
My man! Have you used the td04 in a rover? Would I be wrong thinking that the td04, being water cooled, would potentially be a more reliable unit? Well, minus the extra spots for water leaks, of course😉
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I know that the Mitsubishi td04 water cooled turbo bolts up to in the factory location and has been reported to start pulling at 1300rpm-ish and give a bit more power through the rev range. Considering experimenting with that...
Hmmm. I'm skeptical. Let's see some backup to this.
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yes it is a bit more reliable. Has a little more power. if you use the metal t at the head leaks are not going to happen.
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Hmmm. I'm skeptical. Let's see some backup to this.

Don't worry dude.... I'll guinea pig this one for us and report back.

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yes it is a bit more reliable. Has a little more power. if you use the metal t at the head leaks are not going to happen.

Thought so this could be the way to go. You know, for the new guy, you make a lot of sense
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use the b235r for 99 thru 02. a little differance (less than 1/16 of an inch ) in bolt pattern to manifold.
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use the b235r for 99 thru 02. a little differance (less than 1/16 of an inch ) in bolt pattern to manifold.

That was the plan! Was just looking at one.
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jusy new here. Trying to get a client list for my backers to open my own place!!

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adjust the waste gate a little tight (closed longer) it will build more boost and react better around 1500 or so1
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Yeah, I just need to watch myself on the over boosting. I don't think rover diesels care too much for too much boost
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Don't worry dude.... I'll guinea pig this one for us and report back
I thought you said it has been done... So there must be someone that can show it working...

There are a lot of very knowledgeable tuners in the UK and they have run some hybrids to get more power and bit better bottom end but nothing like high boost at 1300 rpm.
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hmmmm

Didnt say high boost just better!!
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