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Old May 19th, 2010, 02:05 PM
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300tdi R380 into 110 with 3.5V8 LT85

I'm getting my 300tdi next week and need some pointers. I've searched the board but I'm not coming up with all of the info that I think I'll need. I know I'll need to change the motor mounts, what about:

*Transmission Mounts?
*Drive Shafts?
*Transmission Tunnel?

Any advice or links to projects on the board would be greatly appreciated.

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Old May 19th, 2010, 02:24 PM
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You're gonna need a fair bit. Just off the cuff:
tdi crossmember (the trans/t-case mount to it)
correct r380, perhaps lt230
driveshafts
radiator
and stuff...
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I have a NEW 300tdi crossmember with mounts and such.

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defender 300 tdi r380 with bell housing-make sure you get the defender shifter tower/includes tcase shifter, radiator intercooler box, fan shroud, rear drive shaft, crossmember and mount, engine frame mounts (weld in), maybe front drive shaft (haven't compared the lt85's with lt77 and r380 fronts), r380 fiberglass tunnel cover, r380 floors, and seat box and bulkhead flanges to make the tunnel cover mate up. A ton of work but worth it in my opinion.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 03:00 PM
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I'm not sure all that is included at this point but it seems like a pretty complete kit here are a couple of pictures.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 03:04 PM
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Fling me your email on a PM...i've got some pictures and very accurate dimensions for where the engine mounts need to be welded.

The R380 sits on a bolt in crossmember, as said above. You can get all of the bits needed on ebay.
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The 300 is nice and easy to install. you'll find that the LT85 propshafts are the same length as 300Tdi too.

Engine can be run on one wire (the fuel pump solenoid) and the whole engine only needs 4 wires to fully work properly (oil pressure, water temp, alt warn light and FIP solenoid.... 2 larger cables to starter and alternator charge also)

The glowplug plug in looms can be found here. The looms in that link are for a 200Tdi, but 200's use the same rubberised bullet connections as the earlier rovers (i.e. V8's with LT85 euro spec) so should all plug in correctly.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 10:55 PM
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Here is a nice conversion I just found done by ECR. http://www.eastcoastrover.com/83.html They sure do nice work.

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I have a NEW 300tdi crossmember with mounts and such.

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Can you PM me a price.

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I've got a full pile of 300tdi parts if you need anything else, and I'm not far away.
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Old May 20th, 2010, 09:37 AM
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I've got a full pile of 300tdi parts if you need anything else, and I'm not far away.
Great I should know more on tuesday or wednesday
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So the kit is pretty complete. Rad/Intercooler, motor and transmission mounts, fuel filter, relays, hoses, yada yada. Looks like right now the only things I need are the transmission crossmember and the motor mounts (the part that get's welded to the frame). The engine and transmission only have 60K on them but I'll probably do the clutch disk, throw out bearing, timing belt? Anything else I should do before space is tight?
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Not to hijack the thread but it did bring up a couple of questions that I have had. Is the wiring harness for the v8 compatible with the tdi? Will the instrument cluster work or does that have to be changed out as well?
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Ahhh good question. Was wondering that myself... Temp sensor, Oil pressure switch, etc....
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What are you doing with the LT85?
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Old July 6th, 2010, 02:57 PM
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Hadn't thought about it yet but I'll probably be getting rid of it.
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DO THE TIMING BELT! If it is an older motor you may want to get the timing belt modification kit. They upgraded the lower sprocket and the tensioner pulley. If it has the newer stuff the lower sprocket has ridges/walls on the outside to keep the belt in line. The older engines had this set up on the tensioner pulley. If the motor has 60K on it it is due for a belt replacement at any rate.
The wiring harness's have different part numbers for the diesel as compared to the gas motors. You might just be able too get the engine harness or do a cut and splice?
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Bitz, Where are you doing the swap? I'd like to take a gander at this..
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I think you need these.

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Ron,
I have the two mounts I just need the crossmember and the mounts that get welded to the frame.

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Bitz, Where are you doing the swap? I'd like to take a gander at this..
In my driveway. Just pulled the engine from the crate this weekend to size things up. Let me know next time your in town.
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