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Old January 9th, 2013, 09:22 AM
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300tdi oil return hose..

Seems to be NLA anybody have a source? Need one asap.
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If you talking about the hose from turbo to oil pan, go to an hydraulic shop. They'll do it for a couple of buck.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:22 AM
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Couldn't get our hydraulic shop to make one up for us, he sold us the hose and ferules. Surprisingly one of our guys had a hydraulic swager(?) Did a nice job.

Pre-swagging.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 07:55 AM
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Isn't it supposed to be braided SS, or was I imagining that?
Regardless, it sure looks better than my coolant heater fittings I made
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The reason why it is supposed to be in braided stainless steel, is the proximity of the exhaust manifold.. Shouldn't be much of a problem but... Hot oil near an exhaust manifold in a rubber hose? I've seen Range Rover burn down for less then that.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 09:41 AM
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It's been heat sleeved.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 02:05 PM
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Tidy job that
I'm surprised that a part like that appears to be NLA (unless I am looking at the wrong part) It is the oil drain pipe from the turbocharger? if it is then its part number is ERR4895. Over here in the UK the price varies from £20 to £50. Genuine LR part is £53.36
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I don't see why one couldn't hard line this pipe. I am assuming the original design called for a flexible hose for the sake of factory assembly ease, and even field repair ease rather than any specific need for a rubber line.
Would only be a few bux worth of fittings.
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I don't see why one couldn't hard line this pipe. I am assuming the original design called for a flexible hose for the sake of factory assembly ease, and even field repair ease rather than any specific need for a rubber line.
Would only be a few bux worth of fittings.
plus one would gain some heat transfer through a hard line
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Old January 11th, 2013, 11:13 PM
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None of the usual suspects here had it available, I'm sure easy enough in the UK which I certainly would have entertained the idea of ordering one, but having the truck dead on our lift and an anxious owner wanting it back.
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If a hard line, it has to have the same ID as the flexible tube (I believe Holset and Garretts spec a minimum of 19mm, maybe Tom/Antichrist has more information)

Output is at crankcase pressure and is virtually gravity drain so a hard line is kind of overkill, but I'm all for more bling
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You'll have to take the turbo out to fit a rigid tubing. Mine was a pain to fit as I didn't want to break the tread on the turbo.. Stay with a flexible one (IMO) and as there's so little to gain with a fix one. (My 2cents)
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I don't see why one couldn't hard line this pipe. I am assuming the original design called for a flexible hose for the sake of factory assembly ease, and even field repair ease rather than any specific need for a rubber line.
Would only be a few bux worth of fittings.
As someone mentioned, a hardline would be a PITA to fit, also, vibration/harmonics from the turbo would be an issue over time too I would imagine. I'll ask a fellow I know who should be able to provide the definitive reason 'why', and let you know.
'giftshopduane' I see your point about the time constraint
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Old January 13th, 2013, 04:46 PM
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Well I phoned the fellow I mentioned, and he reports that in his experience, a hard line would suffer from fatigue through resonance. Bolts would vibrate loose and you'd get a persistent oil leak from the lower union.
This fellow has tried the hard line with different grades of steel tube and he says that all of them failed with varying degrees of severity. It has to be said that the two 300tdi engines he tried it on were used to power his boat (because he couldn't afford the Volvo powerplant that he really wanted.) so whether the application had something to do with it remains a question in its own right.
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