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Old March 18th, 2014, 07:38 AM
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300 TDI, white smoke?

Sometimes the engine puts out white smoke, advice? Head gasket? It does not do it all the time, but is getting worse. Thanks in advance,
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Usually timing related. Does it do it when you down shift or just let off accelerator and coast ?
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Yes. White smoke in unburnt diesel. Retarded timing is the best bet. After that, I would look at bad injector spray patterns.
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Usually timing related. Does it do it when you down shift or just let off accelerator and coast ?
I should add that I'm adding water almost daily, and the white smoke smells like antifreeze, also no leaks on the garage floor. If it's the timing wouldn't do it all the time? And where is the water going?
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Head gasket.
Stop driving before it blows the "P" gasket as well.

Land Rover recommends that you replace the TDI head instead of milling them.
Have had good luck using the thickest of the TDI head gasket options with a milled head and no adverse effects.

Also look up the 300TDI head torque threads here as many of the manuals have the wrong head torque specs. Pendy set me straight on the specs years ago.
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I should add that I'm adding water almost daily, and the white smoke smells like antifreeze, also no leaks on the garage floor. If it's the timing wouldn't do it all the time? And where is the water going?
Yes you should add that. Your head gasket is toast. Easy to change.
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Ok, thanks for the advice,
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Yes white smoke is steam so water in cylinders. Head gasket.
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Update,

Had the head rebuild along with the turbo, white smoke is gone and truck is running better then ever, I have rebuilt or replaced almost every moving part, now I hope drive it daily, I'm a happy camper,
I have another problem with temp. It's shows right in the middle, when I turn on ac the gage moves right to the red in about 3 seconds, I checked the engine temp with a laser and it is not over heating. What do you think? Sending unit or temp gage?
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Faulty or shared ground give the gauge a dedicated ground and see what that does.
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Had the head rebuild along with the turbo, white smoke is gone and truck is running better then ever, I have rebuilt or replaced almost every moving part, now I hope drive it daily, I'm a happy camper,
I have another problem with temp. It's shows right in the middle, when I turn on ac the gage moves right to the red in about 3 seconds, I checked the engine temp with a laser and it is not over heating. What do you think? Sending unit or temp gage?
I would check all of the wiring for the temperature sending unit. That seems odd that it would only do it with the a/c. Almost certainly a wiring issue. FYI if you take the wire from the sending unit and ground it, the gauge should read fully hot.
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