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Old November 3rd, 2008, 01:56 PM
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300 Tdi or TD-5

I did my research a few years ago and decided on installing a 300 Tdi in my D-90, now I'm getting ready to start on project number two. I am considering my engine choices and wondering if there any good reason to use a TD-5 over a 300 Tdi? I do not have any personal experience with a TD-5 but I know they have miles of wire. Any advice those who know would be helpful.
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Having installed both 300s and Td5s I vote 300 Tdi or 2.8 PS.
100 times easier and a better long term solution, IMO
I wouldn't put a Td5 in anything I personally own if that helps.
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 03:36 PM
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Thats the type of advice I'm looking for. Thanks Mike!
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 04:51 PM
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Problem is, without the Rovacom or other correct diagnostic computers for the TD5 then you can't reset engine faults, do diagnostics, etc.
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Hey Derek

You buy a decent TD5 out of a 110 and I'll trade you for the 300 in mine...
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Old November 4th, 2008, 10:27 AM
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I've got a brand new Td5, complete engine with ECUs
I'll trade you even for a brand new International built 300 Tdi
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Old November 4th, 2008, 11:08 AM
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Are the 2.8's still available? I thought they were out of production.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 11:10 AM
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Now why do you have a "brand new" TD5?

In all honesty I really like the TD5, it's far simpler than a Gems Engine and ecu tunable.

On the other hand I would think long and hard about a 2.8 because of the simplicity factor. Of course if I wanted a bigger engine with electronics why not the 3.0?

Having a Nanocom will be a help as well.

I have to admit the TD5 is not for beginners when it comes to a swap.
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Now why do you have a "brand new" TD5?

In all honesty I really like the TD5, it's far simpler than a Gems Engine and ecu tunable.

On the other hand I would think long and hard about a 2.8 because of the simplicity factor. Of course if I wanted a bigger engine with electronics why not the 3.0?

Having a Nanocom will be a help as well.

I have to admit the TD5 is not for beginners when it comes to a swap.
3 here on the ground right now, but one is going in a NAS 110 and the other a NAS 90.


Actually I had 4 new Td5 engines, now down to 1 that is not spoken for or installed in a customer truck. I was going to use it in one of my trucks but after doing customer installs of Td5s and just this week doing test miles in a customer's 90 we just did to a new Int. Tdi... I want the Tdi, not the Td5.
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I have a question. If the choice were between a 200 Tdi and a 300 Tdi, which one would you prefer?

And thank you in advance for your opinion on the subject.

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What about the international 3.0?

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What about a 4.6 with a blower or a 5.2 with a blower?

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Old November 4th, 2008, 04:54 PM
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And what about the engine of the PS10 ? i think it's an Iveco.
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Having installed both 300s and Td5s I vote 300 Tdi or 2.8 PS.
100 times easier and a better long term solution, IMO
I wouldn't put a Td5 in anything I personally own if that helps.

Mike, would you put a 2.8 in your NAS D110 "Crispy"?
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Mike, would you put a 2.8 in your NAS D110 "Crispy"?
What engine is a personal choice and based on a lot of factors. Resale, what the truck needs to do, where it is going, costs, etc etc etc etc. So there is no short answer to that question. My NAS 110 project is on hold as I build the 130, so the answer for my 110 and a 2.8 is "not likely". I will probably rebuild it and then sell it down the line (I like building them) so for that case I would use a Rover engine for a better resale value.
That does not mean the 2.8 is not a good engine, it is, it just isn't the correct fit for that project.
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