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Old October 26th, 2008, 05:35 PM
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300 tdi air filter

Any ideas on where I can get a KN airfilter to fit teh stoch housing on a 300tdi?
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In case you don't find OE, so far i've found 2 alternatives:

Mann C14160
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Old November 26th, 2008, 08:18 PM
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33-27-37 is the number on the K&N filter

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-DIS...em220288133628

I have this on my rig!

You actually here the air passing through the filter while revving.
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You can also hear the dirt passing through it. Not good.
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Old November 27th, 2008, 01:31 PM
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33-27-37 is the number on the K&N filter

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-DIS...em220288133628
A little pricy i believe, i get both Mann and Baldwin for 20 to 25 USD.
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You can also hear the dirt passing through it. Not good.


Trying to pass internet rumors for original thought is annoying.
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Its a proven and documented fact that a K&N filter does not filter as well as an OEM filter. Sure it flows more air, the trade off is filtration. So if you demand every last bit of performance out of your engine, and dont mind eating some dust, go K&N.
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Its a proven and documented fact that a K&N filter does not filter as well as an OEM filter. Sure it flows more air, the trade off is filtration. So if you demand every last bit of performance out of your engine, and dont mind eating some dust, go K&N.
It is not a proven fact by any measure. It is opinion. Go look at any sand rail builder or pop the hood on a baja truck. You will see more k&n filters than any other. They do a fine job of filtering. In fact, mosebilt wont build a buggy without one. I've run one for 4 years and even before I ran a prefilter there was zero residue past the filter and all I run is desert and rocks.

I have never met personally anyone that blew a motor and could even logically argue a k&n as causation. And yet, so many people on the Internet know for a fact they suck.
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Buck, no offense, but I never said it that a K&N will blow your engine! Certianly dirt getting past your air filter (and into your engine) isnt argueable- this is certianly a BAD thing. Especially in a turbocharged application.
Stop talking about guys building sandrails or baja trucks for a minute and think about it. Google "K&N filter test" and look at the first result:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm

Ive run K&N filters for 10 years, but never on an off road vehicle and never on a forced induction engine. There IS one right this moment in the airbox for my 300Tdi but as soon as its replacement arrives it is coming out.
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Buck, no offense, but I never said it that a K&N will blow your engine! Certianly dirt getting past your air filter (and into your engine) isnt argueable- this is certianly a BAD thing. Especially in a turbocharged application.
Stop talking about guys building sandrails or baja trucks for a minute and think about it. Google "K&N filter test" and look at the first result:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm

Ive run K&N filters for 10 years, but never on an off road vehicle and never on a forced induction engine. There IS one right this moment in the airbox for my 300Tdi but as soon as its replacement arrives it is coming out.
Did you even read that link? It doesn't really help your contention. You have your opinion and thats cool. Do whatever you want, but it's still just your opinion. It's my opinion that it filters every bit as well as a stock filter. And with a prefilter, i think it is about as good as it gets. Of course, more air does mean more dirt even if it filters identically to a stock one. Now, whether there is a power increase is a worthwile debate.
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Then you better unhook your turbo pronto. All that extra air is going to destroy your motor!



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Any ideas on where I can get a KN airfilter to fit teh stoch housing on a 300tdi?
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Anyway i think K&N won't fit a Defender 300Tdi stock housing, may be
on a Discovery Tdi (if we are talking about the big cylinder shape housing).
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Then you better unhook your turbo pronto. All that extra air is going to destroy your motor!
Man, you really dont have any idea do you? Well I dont mind trying to help you learn something. Take a look here:
http://www.blouchturbo.com/facts/whyturbosfail/

Filter debate aside, even if you dont read the words you can glance at the photos and gleam this much: Poorly filtered or unfiltered air is BAD for turbos.
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Man, you really dont have any idea do you? Well I dont mind trying to help you learn something. Take a look here:
http://www.blouchturbo.com/facts/whyturbosfail/

Filter debate aside, even if you dont read the words you can glance at the photos and gleam this much: Poorly filtered or unfiltered air is BAD for turbos.
No shit, Columbo. A k&n is niether poorly filtered or unfiltered! And you think I don't get it! You can go ahead and stop "helping" me. I base my opinions on experience.
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A greasy K&N with a prefilter seems it would be good for a diesel no sensors to foul up etc.
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That's been posted here before. Anybody else catch the important detail?

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As much as I would love to continue I am off to Paris! Have fun all. I have something much more fun to post when I get back!
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