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Old February 15th, 2008, 09:54 PM
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Do you ever see a D 90 with a TDI conversion for sale? What does it cost to get one converted? Seems like a great way to get rid of reliability issues. Thanks.
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Old February 16th, 2008, 04:54 PM
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Do you ever see a D 90 with a TDI conversion for sale?
Yes but only rarely as those that convert generally intend to keep them forever as the price premium they do get doesn't cover the cost of conversion.

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What does it cost to get one converted?
There are at least two on this board that do these conversions fairly regularly and can give you a quote if you're looking for one, but think in the area of 10k

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Seems like a great way to get rid of reliability issues. Thanks.
That's the theory but - YMMV
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Old February 17th, 2008, 04:03 PM
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Roverhybrids converted my 1994 D90 to a 300 TDi and did an excellent job. Meticulous detail and well thought out design. Find a high mileage D90 and call Shane at 530.221.2541. He might even have a used 300 TDi motor available in the near future. It is not cheap to do and you'll have to live with the noise of a diesel, but they are very enjoyable to drive and you'll like the mileage. Financially, these conversions make no sense unless you are going to hold them for a long time or you have more money than brains.

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Old February 17th, 2008, 06:10 PM
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Right now, I'm glad I put the 4.6 in the 110 doublecab. I put a 300tdi in my D90 project and I'm still getting used to it. Eventually, I may go the 300tdi route in the doublecab also, but it's not on my to-do list at the moment.

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Old February 17th, 2008, 08:06 PM
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Been driving a 6.0 litre F-250 for 5 years and 110k miles, so the diesel and the noise aren't going to mess me up. I am concerned about performance though. My 6.0 is no rocket, but you'd never know it wasn't a gas V8 unless you really get on it. Do these hold up fairly well in traffic?
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Old February 17th, 2008, 10:43 PM
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Roverhybrids fitted a larger exhaust (1 1/2"), increased the fuel pump pressure, raised the wastegate blowoff point and port matched the heads so I don't notice much difference vs. the V8 except on hills. Then I have to watch my EGT and sometimes back off the throttle along with downshifting. Also, I am running 33" tires with 4:10 gears. They 60 - 70 mph acceleration really surprises me. Feels stronger than the V8

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Old February 17th, 2008, 11:07 PM
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Now how to find a D 90 with a bad engine or at least with enough wrong with it to knock the cost down enough to make the numbers make some sense? All the ones I see for sale have had major work and major price tags. Can't see putting a nearly new engine on the shop floor.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 06:54 AM
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There are at least two on this board that do these conversions fairly regularly and can give you a quote if you're looking for one, but think in the area of 10k
I'm not sure why this figure gets thrown out there so often, but to the best of my knowledge it's far from the mark, (no offense intended Brad)
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Old February 18th, 2008, 08:48 AM
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I'm not sure why this figure gets thrown out there so often, but to the best of my knowledge it's far from the mark, (no offense intended Brad)
I think its probably because its about the largest figure that first-timers want to spend, so they talk themselves into in and work up from there. Thats how my estimation process went.

January: "I can do this myself for 8-10k"
April: "hmm, maybe this will be more like 12"
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November: "perhaps I can finish for under 25"
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Old February 18th, 2008, 09:35 AM
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Just for the diesel conversion?! Surely you talking about doing lots more than just engine and tranny. If not, it may be time to bail on this idea before I follow the list from above.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 10:40 AM
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Just for the diesel conversion?! Surely you talking about doing lots more than just engine and tranny. If not, it may be time to bail on this idea before I follow the list from above.
I did mine for 5k, sold the old engine for 2k and installed it myself. It's just about what is available at the time.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 10:52 AM
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my money bought a new chassis and a lot of other stuff. it is a matter of timing, but dont count on repeating buck's experience.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 11:12 AM
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I'm not sure why this figure gets thrown out there so often, but to the best of my knowledge it's far from the mark, (no offense intended Brad)
No offense taken... all I can say is that I have reciepts from the conversion on mine that total over 9k
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I have the impression that you can buy a new diesel from Britain for $11-$12k including suspension upgrades and little things (plus shipping, I think)... but labor for conversion isn't cheap.

I think you're looking $20k+ for a hired conversion withs materials and labor.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 11:31 AM
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Is a 300 TDI really the engine I want? I've seen International 2.8 discussed as well. Any others? Is cost going to be in the same ballpark no matter the engine choice?
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Is a 300 TDI really the engine I want? I've seen International 2.8 discussed as well. Any others? Is cost going to be in the same ballpark no matter the engine choice?
What do you want to do with your truck?
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Old February 18th, 2008, 08:18 PM
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That's a great question. My love of the diesel is the rattle, the smell, the indestructability (if you put oil in it) and reliability. I also want this thing to be problem free. Some mild offroading, no mountain climbing, and if I want to pull something heavy, the F-250 will be a lot better. It does need to have good response, to allow for merging. It will mostly be driven to work and back.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 08:32 PM
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No offense taken... all I can say is that I have reciepts from the conversion on mine that total over 9k

Almost eight years ago with the exchange rate at 1.45 to 1. That figure could very easily double today.

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Old February 18th, 2008, 09:02 PM
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Retail for a new ROW Tdi 300 + tranny + rad / IC + all the little bits and exhaust as per factory all genuine parts = about 16K

if you can even find one.
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