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Old August 27th, 2012, 04:57 PM
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200tdi timing belt change

I probably already know the answer to this, but here goes:

I have the radiator, intercooler and frame out of the 110 now as I replace the radiator. While I have it all pulled apart, coolant and oil drained, etc, this seems like a good time to replace the timing belt that's in it. PO felt as though there were maybe 40K on the exitisting belt (but who knows).

Is it worth the time and effort to replace the belt at this point? Has anyone local actually done so?
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Old August 27th, 2012, 05:03 PM
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I have, and it is exceeding easy with all that crap out of the truck.

you can use but DONT NEED the timing pin tool for the flywheel and the timing pin for the injection pump.

In place of the timing pin tool for the flywheel i drilled and tapped a spare wading plug i had for a 4mm bolt and used this instead. Or you could just forgot it all together and eyeball it. The injection pump pin can be replaced with a drill bit, just select the one with the snugest fit through tthe hole in the belt gear and the injector case.

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Bar or gauge style 3/8 torque wrench and a second clicker style 3/8 torque wrench
New idler pulley and possibly a new lower belt gear depending on the type.


Just get one of the kits with a conti belt and all the pulleys included, if it does not come with a new front timing cover gasket, get one of thoes too.

If you have a defender 200tdi, you might as well do the waterpump at the same time
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Old August 27th, 2012, 08:32 PM
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Good data there, thanks. Strangely it doesn't appear that BP or AB carry a 200tdi kit. I'll call RN in the morning, but paddock has the for about $60. Might as well do water pump and belts at the same time I suppose.
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Old August 27th, 2012, 09:11 PM
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Yes, it would be a good time to do all you have mentioned. Much easier of a job with everything you have removed.
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Tony:

Though you don't need it, I have the pin kit and some other tools (except for the crankshaft tool) to do this. I'd actually be willing to/want to give you a hand so that when it comes time for my Tdi belt change I'm well versed in it. Let's put together a wrenching party. I know Bobeck has done one, not sure who else locally.
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defiitely do the water pump @ame time. Took me about 3hrs the first time. 200's are a bit more of a pain than a 300.
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Begs the question: how different is the 200 from the 300?
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Is it worth the time and effort to replace the belt at this point? Has anyone local actually done so?
Hey Tony, I did my 200tdi timing belt in my apartment parking lot in one night. With the right tools and parts on hand it's easy. The only thing I removed was the fan shroud and it was still a piece of cake.
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200 and 300 are dramtically different in so much as the engine was designed for the belt to be easier to change. 200 tdi the entire front cover comes off complete with water pump. On a 300 there are two covers and the water jacket is kept seperate so the waterpump doesn't get disturbed on a 300. Also one serp belt to remove vs all the v belts.
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I know Bobeck has done one, not sure who else locally.
I've done mine too. A lot of steps, but pretty simple and worth the peace of mind.
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Timing belt kit and water pump are on their way. I wound up ordering from the UK since neither AB nor BP carry the kit and RN has to order the kit from the UK anyway.
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Timing belt kit and water pump are on their way. I wound up ordering from the UK since neither AB nor BP carry the kit and RN has to order the kit from the UK anyway.
Keep us posted when it gets here, we'll round the troops and do a wrench-fest at your place.
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Tony:

Though you don't need it, I have the pin kit and some other tools (except for the crankshaft tool) to do this. I'd actually be willing to/want to give you a hand so that when it comes time for my Tdi belt change I'm well versed in it. Let's put together a wrenching party. I know Bobeck has done one, not sure who else locally.
Yep Bobeck did a 300Tdi with me and I believe he also did his 300tdi with the engine out.
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Apparently the Rover Gods don't want me to do this job. Literally nobody in the States seems to carry the timing belt kit. Roversnorth has a stock number but it's special order. I tried to order it from Paddocks but they simply forgot to send it . . .

Anyone know of a domestic source that has the kit in stock?
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Did you try Loco George?
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haven't been able to get through to him. Roversnorth can have it to me in 2 weeks or I can have it in 3 days if I order the parts seperately, but then the price doubles. This cant really be this esoteric of a part, can it?
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mail@roversdownsouth.com - he's usually pretty responsive, give him a shout.
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I've had great success ordering from Dingocroft and have been using them since '99 or so. They sell better parts IMO than Paddock and DLS for a just a little more money. They are great at shipping and I get everything in about 3 days and it is always very well packed and often genuine parts. And I never get dinged for extra fees or duties either. They are slow to answer email but usually quite fast when I call.
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George had the parts in stock, as did DAP, but DAP was substantially cheaper.
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I think because George uses only Genuine parts and DAP uses britpart/allmakes
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