200tdi block heater vs hose heater - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 11:39 AM
tomaco1's Avatar
tomaco1
Status: Offline
T.mac
83 110
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 3,695
Registry
200tdi block heater vs hose heater

I have the block heater for my 200tdi that I haven't installed yet,
My question is after getting the new RN catalog is:
Which is the better way to go?
the hose heater seems like a much easier install.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 12:29 PM
D90user's Avatar
D90user
Status: Offline
steve
109/110 ambulance-55 series I
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Nevada
Posts: 1,447
I'm not familier with the hose heater from RN but I the VW's often run a coolant heater. It is a little heater with a pump 110v.

I have one that I never installed in the garage if you want me to look at it.

How much is the RN unit?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 12:42 PM
tomaco1's Avatar
tomaco1
Status: Offline
T.mac
83 110
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 3,695
Registry
The 1.5 inch is $60
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 01:06 PM
D90user's Avatar
D90user
Status: Offline
steve
109/110 ambulance-55 series I
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Nevada
Posts: 1,447
Seems like a great price (weird). I take it it does not circulate?

Have you seen the pan heaters?
http://www.jcwhitney.com/jcwhitney/p...&redir=k232270
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 03:49 PM
Red90's Avatar
Red90
Status: Online
John B.
1991 Defender 90, 200TDI
Site Team
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
Posts: 9,250
Registry
You are talking of a lower rad hose heater. They would OK. The block heaters are better.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 04:49 PM
D90user's Avatar
D90user
Status: Offline
steve
109/110 ambulance-55 series I
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Nevada
Posts: 1,447
look at this
http://www.frostheater.com/

Could be adapted
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 06:11 PM
evilfij's Avatar
evilfij
Status: Offline
evilfij
I have never seen a rover in person
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: on the internet
Posts: 14,688
Block heaters are better and a cleaner install. (keep a spare freeze plug in the truck incase the block heater starts to leak).
__________________
*not legal advice*
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 08:33 PM
junkyddog11's Avatar
junkyddog11
Status: Offline
oil soaked filter
95 RRC 300tdi
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: No. Berwick, Maine
Posts: 1,253
the hose heaters are much more prone to failure (leaking) than block heaters. Doesn't matter who makes them.
__________________
Matt Browne


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
new expansion complete. Not only are we the only Rover shop in Eliot Maine...now we're also the biggest.

"Dedicated to the resurrection of junk through engineering?"
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 08:38 PM
tomaco1's Avatar
tomaco1
Status: Offline
T.mac
83 110
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 3,695
Registry
Great, because I already have the block heater.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old December 3rd, 2009, 09:31 PM
dave_lucas's Avatar
dave_lucas
Status: Offline
Dave Lucas
None
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: CO USA
Posts: 3,126
What is the proper size for the 200tdi freeze plug heater?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old December 4th, 2009, 10:05 AM
Red90's Avatar
Red90
Status: Online
John B.
1991 Defender 90, 200TDI
Site Team
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
Posts: 9,250
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by D90user
look at this
http://www.frostheater.com/

Could be adapted
I've tried one. They don't work well with the design of the Defender heating system. Natural circulation is poor and they overheat. If you really care, I'll get into more details....
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old December 4th, 2009, 10:21 PM
Antichrist's Avatar
Antichrist
Status: Offline
Tom Rowe
Defender/Disco/Series/MoD
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA USA
Posts: 1,280
Some of the tank heaters actually have pumps in them to circulate the coolant, but those usually connect to the heater hose.
__________________
Tom Rowe
Atlanta, GA

Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck
in places even more inaccessible.

62 88 Regular
67 109 6cyl NADA x2
74 Lightweight - The Antichrist
95 DI 5-speed
95 D90 5-speed
97 D1 Automatic
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old December 4th, 2009, 10:57 PM
tomaco1's Avatar
tomaco1
Status: Offline
T.mac
83 110
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Long Island, New York
Posts: 3,695
Registry
I have it in my office, waiting to install. I got the part number from a post here. Can't remember it offhand.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dave_lucas
What is the proper size for the 200tdi freeze plug heater?
Follow-up Post:

Zerostart (aka Temro) 600W 'freeze plug heater' P/N 3100087 fits a 200TDI, I assume the 300TDI is the sam
Found it!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old December 6th, 2009, 10:12 PM
Shearpin
Status: Offline
Henry Stinson
'73 Series III SWB '84 110 tdi
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 94
Just to confuse the issue I recently looked into the same options. I ended up with a wolverine brand adhesive oil pan heater. Trucker friend of mine suggested - warming the coolant is for passengers. If your goal is to ease wear - heat the oil.

I've got mine on a timer - below zero it starts without that cold diesel knock. Instructions indicate 3 hours in -10 will bring oil to operating temps.

Easy install as well...

Henry
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old December 7th, 2009, 10:55 AM
Red90's Avatar
Red90
Status: Online
John B.
1991 Defender 90, 200TDI
Site Team
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
Posts: 9,250
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearpin
Just to confuse the issue I recently looked into the same options. I ended up with a wolverine brand adhesive oil pan heater. Trucker friend of mine suggested - warming the coolant is for passengers. If your goal is to ease wear - heat the oil.

I've got mine on a timer - below zero it starts without that cold diesel knock. Instructions indicate 3 hours in -10 will bring oil to operating temps.

Easy install as well...

Henry
If you live somewhere cold, you should have one of those in ADDITION to the coolant heaters as the oil gets warm. They are not high enough wattage to heat the engine by themselves.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Tags
200tdi, heater, tdi

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
200tdi block heater tomaco1 Defender Technical Discussions 0 March 26th, 2009 07:43 PM
Block sealant (was coolant gasses in rad) Davis Defender Technical Discussions 6 April 6th, 2006 01:08 AM
110 Heater Hose Routing newfD90 Defender Technical Discussions 11 February 1st, 2006 02:02 PM
Engine Block Heater for Defender 110 - tips? COSteve Defender Technical Discussions 10 December 6th, 2005 01:12 PM
heater motor lubricant ??? artm Defender Technical Discussions 1 October 18th, 2003 04:42 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:59 PM.


Copyright