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Old March 23rd, 2011, 07:58 PM
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Ah... I know what you purchased. Cool truck.

EDIT: nevermind...I was thinking of a different Arles blue truck..
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 11:35 PM
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Yes, the increased range and not having to carry very explosive gasoline are the best diesel features in my opinion.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 01:10 AM
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...very explosive gasoline.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 03:30 AM
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I have been hearing that a lot ... but so limited on 150-170 range :-( ...
I feel your pain. One particular memory of a 7 day overland trip in my 3.9 RRC, in the company of one 300TDi powered RRC and a 2.8 VNT powered 110, and one 3.9 powered 110. The guys in the diesels didn't even bother with gerry cans, they had mapped out that they could make it to all the fueling points without. The 3.9 contingent had 4 gerry cans each, and we were still sweating it. On the pavement sections, the diesel boys would take off at 70, and the 3.9 trucks would mince along at 60 trying to keep the mpg out of single digits. If the roads were gravel, we employed the strategy of letting the diesels go first, and then hanging back and complaining on the radio about their dust so they would slow down!

So when it came time to get a 110, I had two clear priorities -- diesel, and extra fuel tanks. I have 40 gallons capacity now, so no gerry cans for me!
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Old March 24th, 2011, 04:11 AM
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I have been hearing that a lot ... but so limited on 150-170 range :-( ...
Yah, I can go 700 miles in my 90....
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Old March 24th, 2011, 09:45 AM
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Yah, I can go 700 miles in my 90....
28 gallon tank?
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Old March 24th, 2011, 10:12 AM
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True. Diesel has a higher flash point but a lower auto ignition temperature than gas. Unless of course you use biodiesel which has a flash point twice that of diesel and it is unable to auto ignite.

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Old March 24th, 2011, 12:36 PM
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I've never got less than 190-200 miles to a tank. It sounds like someone needs to service their rigs and set them up the addaptives. I don't drive faster than 70mph but I don't drive it gingerly around town either. Try not "Hogleg'n" the skinny pedal and see what happens. It's a SW with a rack,35's, and 1.4 box if that answers any ???'s!
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Old March 26th, 2011, 10:54 AM
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Welcome to Seattle. You're in one of the best places in the country for enjoying your D90, with plenty of opportunities within a day's drive from Seattle. Head east on I90 or SR410 and you have your choice of any terrain that you want. The Manashtash Ridge trail and the Naches trail, for example, are popular off-roading destinations. Or head to the Olympic Peninsula and explore some of the country in the Wynoochee and Satsop drainages. I also enjoy just cruising the streets of Seattle and annoying the liberals (we have lots of 'em) who get hysterical at the sight of a gas-guzzling SUV. (Tell them that you're particularly proud of your large carbon footprint.)

I agree with some of the other posters that your best bet is lots of seat time before you consider any upgrades. Your Rover already has all you need to make the silly little Rubicons of the world seem like Tonka Toys. My 1995 fastback ST, with 280,000 miles on it, is completely stock, and I've never felt the need for anything that didn't come from the factory, other than replacing the radio. Save your money for a good elk hunting rifle!
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I have been hearing that a lot ... but so limited on 150-170 range :-( ...
Get a bigger tank.
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Very nice truck! Congrats!
thanks .. i love it

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Get a bigger tank.
Would love to, i was not aware that was an option...Where is a good place to look for a bigger tank, can i fit a larger tank replacing the stock.. Really do not want to give up any room inside the cab/rear..
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You need to watch Mythbusters.
While gasoline itself isn't very explosive, the vapors (which any container will have when not completely full) are very explosive. The less liquid in the container the greater the risk.
But the bigger risk from carrying jerry cans is from a ruptured can in the event of an accident and the gasoline being ignited from a heat source. The resulting fireball won't be what people see in the movies, but it can engulf a vehicle.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 11:22 PM
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While gasoline itself isn't very explosive, the vapors (which any container will have when not completely full) are very explosive.
So have you watched the shows when they have tried? They tried everything in their power to make any type of explosion including adjusting the vapour space to the perfect conditions. They could not make it happen. The vapour at the surface of the liquid burns. There are no explosions or fireballs.
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So have you watched the shows when they have tried? They tried everything in their power to make any type of explosion including adjusting the vapour space to the perfect conditions. They could not make it happen. The vapour at the surface of the liquid burns. There are no explosions or fireballs.
Did they try a Sobe bomb? That sure as shit works. I guess a bunch of drunk wheelers are smarter than pedo-mustach and ginger-man.
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So have you watched the shows when they have tried? They tried everything in their power to make any type of explosion including adjusting the vapour space to the perfect conditions. They could not make it happen. The vapour at the surface of the liquid burns. There are no explosions or fireballs.
No, but when I was a firefighter many years ago I took a number of Fire Science courses, including Flammable Hazardous Materials and Explosive and Toxic Hazardous Materials and I've been at the scene of a number of car fires.
The properties of gasoline haven't changed significantly in the last 30 years.

On the practical side, I know how to use accelerants to best advantage, make several different kinds of bombs and generate numerous poison gases with common household materials.
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I see you're from Seattle. I wheeled for years in the lower mainland, BC and have to recommend lockers in your environment. Drive up to Walker Valley for a day of wheeling. Its perfect for short wheelbase trucks.
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So, you have seen it burn and not explode.....
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So, you have seen it burn and not explode.....
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The resulting fireball won't be what people see in the movies, but it can engulf a vehicle.
Yes, once the fireball subsides the car continues to burn.
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Yes, once the fireball subsides the car continues to burn.
Sure you were a firefighter. And sure you you took many Fire Science courses. And sure they included Flammable Hazardous Materials and Explosive and Toxic Hazardous Materials. And sure you have been at the scene of a number of car fires. But.....

Red90 saw an episode of Mythbusters. Checkmate, bitch.



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Old March 28th, 2011, 10:35 PM
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Red90 saw an episode of Mythbusters. Checkmate, bitch.
I also design, build and operate refineries and petrochemical facilities and have been involved in a lot of fire fighting training. I'm fairly conversant with the flammability of light hydrocarbons.

Gasoline burns well, cars burn well. Making a liquid non-oxygenated fuel "explode" is pretty hard without explosives or a pressure containment device available.
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