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Old January 28th, 2015, 04:33 PM
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Simple question: Will a 19J turbo diesel bolt up to an R380?
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Old January 28th, 2015, 05:53 PM
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Depends on which R380...
BUT yes a 19J will bolt to both the R380 Stumpy and the R380 used with the 300 TDI.

I think the real question should be what better engine can be installed to get rid of the 19J.
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Old January 28th, 2015, 06:23 PM
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A 300tdi r380 will be way too long for the stock engine location in a 2.5.
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They make a stumpy r380 for lt77 applications
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Pretty sure Andy is now stationed in the UK and has to keep the original lump in order for his truck to be importable when he returns to the states.
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Pretty sure Andy is now stationed in the UK and has to keep the original lump in order for his truck to be importable when he returns to the states.
Exactly. He needs to stuff a palletized 300Tdi in the back of his ancient airplane and bring one back to the States for "future" use.
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Old January 29th, 2015, 06:05 AM
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ahem...two things, yes Doug is correct. I current have a great setup in a 1990 110 with a 200 TDI/R380. It originally had a 19J engine in it. I have procured a 19J up in Ely for 75 quid that I am toying with throwing in just to import in a couple of years.


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Exactly. He needs to stuff a palletized 300Tdi in the back of his ancient airplane and bring one back to the States for "future" use.
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Old January 29th, 2015, 08:16 AM
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The 19J should just pop right in then especially if it is a Defender 200tdi. If it is a Disco engine it will depend on what trickery was used in the conversion.
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Without an adaptor I doubt it could be mated to an R380. Nor do the 200tdi. When my LT77 broke I thought about swaping to an R380, I check over the web and it's possible but needs the adaptor and lotsa customizing.
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Old January 29th, 2015, 09:48 AM
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Without an adaptor I doubt it could be mated to an R380. Nor do the 200tdi. When my LT77 broke I thought about swaping to an R380, I check over the web and it's possible but needs the adaptor and lotsa customizing.
The diesel versions of the LT77 and R380 have the exact same input shafts and bellhousing pattern. No adapters or customizing needed. The same with the V8 versions, which are, of course different from the diesel versions.
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Pretty sure Andy is now stationed in the UK and has to keep the original lump in order for his truck to be importable when he returns to the states.
OK, so more importantly what engine are you swapping to?
Then I would let that drive which R380 you use.
If you need the long R380, it will require you re-positioning the 19J further forward which could possibly draw some unwanted attention, but perhaps not...
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I'm not sure which R380 the engine is mated to, but it does have the Defender 200 TDI. This might all be a non issue if I can end up selling this one and find another around here that is all original (which is becoming increasing hard I might add). Just keeping my options open, plus it's a fun discussion anyways
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if i were running a 200tdi in the uk, i would try to find a disco 200tdi auto adapter plate, bellhousing, and zf auto trans.
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OK, so more importantly what engine are you swapping to? Then I would let that drive which R380 you use. If you need the long R380, it will require you re-positioning the 19J further forward which could possibly draw some unwanted attention, but perhaps not...
Ultimately I want the truck back in the U.S. As it is now, so the swap to the 19J would only be temporary to make it legal and then I would just bring back the 200 Tdi my household goods; of course it would be much easier if I just find another truck....
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I'm not sure which R380 the engine is mated to, but it does have the Defender 200 TDI. This might all be a non issue if I can end up selling this one and find another around here that is all original (which is becoming increasing hard I might add). Just keep my options open, plus it's a fun discussion anyways
If it has a Defender 200TDI now then the 19J will drop straight in with zero problems.
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If it has a Defender 200TDI now then the 19J will drop straight in with zero problems.
Awesome, that's good news and keeps my options open. I think it's so funny that such a big deal to customs. I mean, from what I understand of the two engines, there really it's that much difference between aside from the manifold, some much better internal parts and obvious reliability. I mean, they are both 2.5L turbo diesels

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What about getting the Defender 200 TDI engine number put on V5, weren't there some 1990 Defenders that had 200 TDiis?
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Old January 29th, 2015, 03:04 PM
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What about getting the Defender 200 TDI engine number put on V5, weren't there some 1990 Defenders that had 200 TDiis?
Nope. The truck must have the original type engine as decoded by the VIN. 200TDIs came out in the Defender for the 1991 model year. Some should have build dates during 1990, which means some will be legal in a short time, but you would need build dates to confirm...
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Came across this:

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