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Old March 5th, 2014, 12:03 AM
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1997 Land Rover Defender 90 NAS v8 Automatic Experience / Problems

Hello,

To start off, As probably many on here, I've dreamed of owning a Defender 90 as a kid. Now I've finally worked a few years and am thinking of finally buying one. I have found a 1997 90 NAS v8 automatic transmission in Montreal (I live in toronto) that I'm thinking of buying. Given that it will be my only car (and I was hoping on basically keeping it for life), do you think I will run into a lot of problems maintaining it? Anyone here own the same spec as an every day vehicle and willing to share their experience or problems with the car, if any? What are the typical problems or breakdowns you have experienced?

I would be using it about 90/10 in terms of on-road/off-road. The truck doesn't have a carfax report as the guy imported it from Europe. He said I could organize a CAA inspection to make sure the car isn't a lemon. Does that sound sketchy lol?

Also, what should I be watching out for as I go to take a look at the truck?

I would really appreciate all the help I can get!

Thanks a lot!
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Old March 5th, 2014, 01:03 AM
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If it was imported from Europe then it wouldn't be a NAS. That would make it a ROW(rest of world) that was converted to NAS spec, if that makes a difference to you.

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Don't have a NAS but I have 1986 ROW 110 diesel that I daily drove for two year before I started to restore it. Only issues I had were the alternator died and the hub bearings needed to be replaced.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 02:29 AM
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It's likely that it's a Japan/Dubai spec NAS style truck. Defenders were never sold with 4.0 efi V8's except for the NAS style trucks that went to the US, Japan, and UAE. Just because it was recently imported isn't necessarily a bad thing. A competent land rover mechanic familiar with defenders should be able to give you an idea of it's condition.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 06:51 AM
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Is it white?

Auto issues will really only be associated with the brake sensor and getting it out of park. Aside from that it's probably about as dependable as any other year. Have fun!
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Old March 5th, 2014, 09:34 AM
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Is it white?

Auto issues will really only be associated with the brake sensor and getting it out of park. Aside from that it's probably about as dependable as any other year. Have fun!
It is white - there seem to be a big influx of them lately as they are all over Canada, at a very wide range in price points. Maybe it makes sense for me to go to the source (Japan / UAE) and import one, as those selling it here are definitely charging a premium for it

Thanks a lot for your feedback everyone! Is the automatic transmission reliable? I read that transmission boxes gave problems to a lot of people, but those were on TDis, so not sure how the NAS automatics are...

Any of you guys know a good Defender mechanic in Toronto or Montreal?!
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Old March 5th, 2014, 09:54 AM
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The ZF is a great transmission
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Old March 5th, 2014, 09:57 AM
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It's all about maintenance with these. As with any car, if you maintain the transmission and other parts they will perform better and last longer. Does it come with any service records or is it purely a blank slate and they imported it with absolutely nothing but the word they stand on/

They are not "easy" to find in Japan or the UAE. You'd have far better luck finding a 1997 NAS in the US than you would in Japan or UAE.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 11:13 AM
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It's all about maintenance with these. As with any car, if you maintain the transmission and other parts they will perform better and last longer. Does it come with any service records or is it purely a blank slate and they imported it with absolutely nothing but the word they stand on/
That's the thing - I ran the carfax report and came out with nothing. All the person says is that it's in excellent condition, and has no records to show me. I asked to show some import documentation (to try piece together a history / status of the vehicle from there), but he said he can't show it because he doesn't want to reveal his source (guessing he has a huge markup on it if the car is at $34K right now) - he proposed a CAA inspection but I don't have much faith in those guys with this kind of car...
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Sounds like a very sketchy deal to me.
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It's likely that it's a Japan/Dubai spec NAS style truck. Defenders were never sold with 4.0 efi V8's except for the NAS style trucks that went to the US, Japan, and UAE. Just because it was recently imported isn't necessarily a bad thing. A competent land rover mechanic familiar with defenders should be able to give you an idea of it's condition.
Wasn't there a 1998 50th anniversary 4.0 auto sold in UK?

Is this truck LHD or RHD?
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Wasn't there a 1998 50th anniversary 4.0 auto sold in UK?

Is this truck LHD or RHD?
True, that truck was rhd.
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Odds are it is a japan/dubai spec truck that is over the production date deadline for importation into the US.
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Seems kinda skecthy to me. If it was a Japan/UAE truck don't you think the seller would say it came from Japan/UAE instead of saying it came from Europe?
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Old March 5th, 2014, 02:59 PM
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Hey Guys,

This is the truck for anyone wondering:
http://www.montrealhd.com/used/Land+...5cfb18600f.htm
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I actually tried to buy this truck - but cannot be imported. Seller is not someone I would want to deal with again. Deals that look too good to be true.... Look at the other sub 60k trucks and what they bring...
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I actually tried to buy this truck - but cannot be imported. Seller is not someone I would want to deal with again. Deals that look too good to be true.... Look at the other sub 60k trucks and what they bring...
How come you wouldn't want to deal with him? Did he tell you anything about the history of the truck or just same luck as me?
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he was extremely friendly in advance of the purchase, and when I "won" the auction, he got very hostile and abdicated any responsibility for the fact that after suggesting the vehicle was importable, it was not. Little more digging I did suggested that there have been several instances where he has sold vehicles to Americans who only find out they cannot import the cars when they get to the border (something I think he counts on)....

Maybe not an issue for you - but I tend to avoid dealing with people who are dishonest, regardless of whether I am directly affected in a particular instance.
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Hey Guys,

This is the truck for anyone wondering:
http://www.montrealhd.com/used/Land+...5cfb18600f.htm
Look s really clean, but I would want 100% confidence on its origin before buying.
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It is fine for Canada and the thread starter is Canadian. Seems like a perfect choice for a Canadian. You don't pay the US price, own it for 8 years, and all of a sudden you have a US importable NAS spec truck and the not US importable discount evaporates.
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So I asked if it was white because I figured I knew which truck you were looking at.

Here is a discussion on the same truck, or the other one he recently had for sale...which is probably the one bonefish4 is talking about above.

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=48981
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