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Old October 18th, 2013, 09:39 PM
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1995 NAS D-90 Starting Problems

The vehicle is well maintained and garage kept. The last few times I have taken it out is fires right up and runs perfect, but when I turn it off to unlock the garage it wont start. More specifically there is power, but the starter does nothing. Thinking that the solenoid is starting to go I tap it a couple of times and it fires right up. The next couple of times the process is the same. Since the weather is getting cold I decide to get a new starter. The install went smooth, but now it acts like the solenoid, but tapping it does nothing.....any thoughts???
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Old October 19th, 2013, 10:30 AM
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Have you taken the starter out? Not sure the solonoid is serviceable but it does definitely sound like yours is sticky.
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Old October 20th, 2013, 09:31 PM
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I have not pulled the new starter out, I was hoping a brand new one wouldn't have issues.
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Old October 21st, 2013, 07:47 AM
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Did you have the old starter checked to see if it was bad?

Did you check all wires going to the starter?

Do you have a good connection to all wires?

Did you check ALL ground wires?

It could be a bad starter , I went thru 4 in my old dodge dart...

check the simple stuff first...
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Old October 23rd, 2013, 08:13 PM
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I haven't pulled out the new starter and had it tested, but I did recheck all of the wires and they seem to be good. When I turn the ignition I hear 1 click which seems to be coming from the starter. I am trying to avoid pulling the starter again....
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Old October 23rd, 2013, 10:09 PM
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I haven't pulled out the new starter and had it tested, but I did recheck all of the wires and they seem to be good. When I turn the ignition I hear 1 click which seems to be coming from the starter. I am trying to avoid pulling the starter again....
Because hope and avoiding looking for the most likely issues is the best way to diagnose the problem?

I'll remember that next time I have an issue.
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Old October 23rd, 2013, 10:50 PM
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I would pull the starter.... Also, you can bench test it to see if it works outside your truck.

------ Follow up post added October 23rd, 2013 10:53 PM ------

Also, on the old starter: mine was sticky. Opened it it (the screws are red loctited so you'll need to drill them out/they will break but Lowe's had hardware to replace them), cleaned it, greased what could, actuated it a few times, put it back together and it's been in the truck for the past 5-6 years.
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 06:07 PM
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Still working on it...

I have been out of the country, but am now back to figuring out why the NAS 90 won't start. Before I left I had the battery tested and it had a dead cell, so I replaced it and still nothing. Today I reluctantly removed the new starter and it checked out just fine. Could it be the ignition switch? What is my next step? This problem is getting frustrating...nothing when I go from run to start.
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Yes it could be the ignition switch. Get a meter and test it.
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 06:44 PM
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 12:20 PM
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Have you tried running a hot-wire to the trigger on the starter?
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 12:24 PM
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I pulled the new starter yesterday and had it bench tested...worked perfect. I just made a long jumper wire and am getting ready to test the ignition switch.
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 12:39 PM
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This problem is getting frustrating...nothing when I go from run to start.
You need to be as specific as possible, potentially upload a video or something. By "nothing...from run to start" do you mean that when you put your key in the ignition, then turn through, you don't get door chime, lights on dash, fuel prime, and then no crank either? This could be battery (connection), ignition switch, etc.
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 12:55 PM
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Thanks I will clarify. When I turn the key to the "run" position I get door chime, fuel prime and normal dash lights. When I turn to the "start" position there is no attempt to engage the starter. No clicking of the solenoid. Steps taken so far...new bench tested battery, new Optima battery (old one had a dead cell). Checked battery terminals. Other odd occurance... Prior to starter replacement the failure to engage starter could be alleviated by lightly tapping the old starter with hammer which mademe think the solenoid was sticking.
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 01:01 PM
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you need to check that you get a voltage out of the ignition switch in the start position ... the switches are quite cheap ...
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 01:28 PM
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Yup, check the ignition switch. You may also just have a bad connection in the wiring to/on the starter itself, and your hammering on it merely improved the connection temporarily.
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Old December 23rd, 2013, 01:35 PM
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I had a similar problem - sometimes it would crank, sometimes not. What had happened was the ignition switch itself has come apart. You can purchase the switch separate from the lock itself. I removed the binnacle and installed that way. Otherwise you will need to remove the ignition lock. Good luck.

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Old December 23rd, 2013, 03:17 PM
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I had a similar problem - sometimes it would crank, sometimes not. What had happened was the ignition switch itself has come apart. You can purchase the switch separate from the lock itself. I removed the binnacle and installed that way. Otherwise you will need to remove the ignition lock. Good luck.

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Old December 23rd, 2013, 03:46 PM
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Ok so there is a click behind the dash when I turn the ignition to "start" that I did not mention.
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Old December 25th, 2013, 06:21 AM
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Check the condition around the power connection lug to the starter. These are usually exposed and grease conducts electricity. If the area is extremely greasy, which is not uncommon for Land Rovers, you could be just not getting enough power to spin the starter. I had an older sports car with same symptoms, a little cleanup with CRC Electra Motive fixed the problem.
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