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Old August 29th, 2013, 02:56 PM
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14CUX Diagnostic Tool?

Can anyone recommend a good, affordable Diagnostic Tool for a 14CUX ECU equipment Land Rover?
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Old August 29th, 2013, 02:59 PM
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Old August 29th, 2013, 03:02 PM
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Software free ... just needs a cable made up ...
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Does RoverGuage work on a MAC?
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Does RoverGuage work on a MAC?
not out of the 'box'. I would suggest just borrowing a windows laptop ...
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not out of the 'box'. I would suggest just borrowing a windows laptop ...
I've got one of each, just making sure that Windows was the right choice. Thank you again!
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http://www.amazon.com/USB-Header-Lik...ef=pd_sxp_f_pt

you'll need one of these

and a connector for the ECU cable .... I have a spare although you could just push the wires in initially
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look at the 14CUX pdf i posted yesterday ... it will help you make sense of the readings ... also read this which is for a different product ( I have this as well ) but contains lots of useful info ...

http://ecumate.com/docs/Ecumate%20inst.pdf
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I should ask what are you trying to measure?
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RRCs have several of these connectors on them if you have a junk yard nearby. Worst case I can send you one.

I bought a cheaper USB cable that should work but haven't gotten around to trying it yet. If it works, we can get them for $8 instead of $20 and I plan to make up a few and offer them for sale at cost.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FTDI-FT232RL.../171025576552?

It took a while to ship but if interested I can give it a try sooner than later.

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look at the 14CUX pdf i posted yesterday ... it will help you make sense of the readings ... also read this which is for a different product ( I have this as well ) but contains lots of useful info ...

http://ecumate.com/docs/Ecumate%20inst.pdf
Yeah I read through this yesterday. A lot of good information, sure wish Steve could ship to the states.

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I should ask what are you trying to measure?
Just trying to see all available live data (since check engine light is not illuminated) to help pin-point an issue that I am having (similar to other threads on this site) dealing with Hard to Start, Stumbling, Stalling, wants to die when ramping-up the throttle from idle...
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Yeah I read through this yesterday. A lot of good information, sure wish Steve could ship to the states.
I had him ship to a UK address and then had it forwarded by a family member.

I had a little bit of fun as it was picked up in a scan at customs and had to complete paperwork specifying what it was. took a little while but no real drama.

I have both ECUMate an Rovergauge ... I have the ECUMate in the truck all the time and used it troubleshoot a few problems ... to be honest I think that the RoverGauge is a better option ... it's far cheaper ... has the same functionality ( even slightly more ) and is upgradeable.

I'm with Charles ... we should create a set of cables and a wiki for using rover gauge ...
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Yeah I read through this yesterday. A lot of good information, sure wish Steve could ship to the states.

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Just trying to see all available live data (since check engine light is not illuminated) to help pin-point an issue that I am having (similar to other threads on this site) dealing with Hard to Start, Stumbling, Stalling, wants to die when ramping-up the throttle from idle...
sticky IACV ... give it a good clean and light lube.

Check all your air hoses with carb cleaner.

Rover Gauge or ECU mate isn't going to help too much with this problem unless it's in limp mode because a defective sensor.
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There is already a google code page for RoverGauge which includes a wiki. The best thing we can do is support Collin by contributing to the project directly. If we can't edit the wiki pages directly we could feed him content until he gives us permission
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Charles ... How about we make up a set of cables ... I can actually solder pretty well ... sell them via a sticky and add a premium which is a donation to Collin .... I'm out for a couple of weeks ( getting married ) but happy to work on this when i get back ... assuming my fiancee doesn't change into a dragon during the ceremony! ;-)
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sticky IACV ... give it a good clean and light lube.

Check all your air hoses with carb cleaner.

Rover Gauge or ECU mate isn't going to help too much with this problem unless it's in limp mode because a defective sensor.
I've cleaned the IACV, didn't lube it (will do that). the only vacuum leak that I have been able to find was a bad vacuum advance. I have an IGN AMP Module & Vacuum advance coming. Should I replace the Plastic Distributor Insulating cover under the rotor if it is cracked and has a chunk missing?
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I've cleaned the IACV, didn't lube it (will do that). the only vacuum leak that I have been able to find was a bad vacuum advance. I have an IGN AMP Module & Vacuum advance coming. Should I replace the Plastic Distributor Insulating cover under the rotor if it is cracked and has a chunk missing?
Is the broken chunk under the cover causing the advance mechanism to be sticky? Probably worth a look. If it's all clean I wouldn't worry. Mines cracked and causes no issue.

Is the timing set correctly? I found mine was obviously set by some retard with the vacuum advance still connected .... this could make a big difference to pickup.
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RRCs have several of these connectors on them if you have a junk yard nearby. Worst case I can send you one.

I bought a cheaper USB cable that should work but haven't gotten around to trying it yet. If it works, we can get them for $8 instead of $20 and I plan to make up a few and offer them for sale at cost.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FTDI-FT232RL.../171025576552?

It took a while to ship but if interested I can give it a try sooner than later.

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Is the broken chunk under the cover causing the advance mechanism to be sticky? Probably worth a look. If it's all clean I wouldn't worry. Mines cracked and causes no issue.

Is the timing set correctly? I found mine was obviously set by some retard with the vacuum advance still connected .... this could make a big difference to pickup.
No, not sure where the broken chunk ended up. I did take the distributor apart to make sure it wasn't down around the counter weights in the bottom.

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Is the broken chunk under the cover causing the advance mechanism to be sticky? Probably worth a look. If it's all clean I wouldn't worry. Mines cracked and causes no issue.

Is the timing set correctly? I found mine was obviously set by some retard with the vacuum advance still connected .... this could make a big difference to pickup.
I'll verify the timing after I get my parts and put the distributor back together.
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