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Old December 20th, 2006, 01:11 PM
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110 tire question

For those of you with 110s running 255/85-16's on wolf wheels do the tires rub on the upper spring seats on full stuff?

I'm currently running coopper S/T-C 265/75 but I would like to run 255/85 to get a bit narrower... although 235/85 is narrow too...hmmm.

any input? I run this truck through a lot. It sees long high way miles, washboard for days, sand, snow, mud and occasionally tough stuff (although I have another set of bigger mudds if it is for recreation). Basicially I'm looking for an expedition style tire that will hold it's own off road and will wear like a champ. I'm driving to South America in August and trying to get everything sorted.

Thinking about either Cooper STT's or BFG MT's... although the MT's worry me on ice and in rain (input please!!)...BFG A/T's are out of the question because of the mudd factor.. At this point I'm leaning towards 235/85...

I know everyone has an opinion on this so let it fly.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 02:49 PM
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Old December 20th, 2006, 03:10 PM
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BFGs are invincible. I've never torn one in 6 NVTR events, but stuffed plenty of plugs in other brands on team trucks.

Use American Racing Black Nuggets -- 1 inch offset -- and your 255/85s will not rub, although you'll have to trim the eyebrows a bit at the sills...

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Old December 20th, 2006, 03:23 PM
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Any input on road use in the rain and snow for bfg mt's?
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Old December 20th, 2006, 03:31 PM
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Old December 20th, 2006, 03:31 PM
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Based on the fact that we're basically amidst a blizzard at the moment and I've been driving around all morning, I'd say that the BFG MT's work great in the snow -- when siped. I have 255/85's on the 110 that are siped and they've been great. On the other hand, I used the same tire in the same size on my D90 but non-siped and they were scary in rain and mediocre in the snow.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 03:33 PM
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I have never seen a definative answer on if siping tires reduced/increases wear signifigantly...any opinions?
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Old December 20th, 2006, 03:39 PM
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how are they scary in the rain if you drive according to conditions?
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Scarier than driving a standard passenger car. With non-siped I have to drive more for the tires inability to cope with the conditions. Obviously a high center of gravity SUV is not going to stop great or corner like a sports car, but based on comparing multiple tires (besides the BFG's), they are scary in the rain IMO. BTW, rover4x4, I hadn't seen your comment prior to posting mine, so I'm not opposing your opinion, simply sharing mine.

I've also heard that siping can reduce the life of the tires somewhat. I closely inspected my tread after my first off-road outing and was suprised to see that there was very little degradation of the tread. We'll have to see how it works long term. It seems like a decent compromise for being able to have a max traction tire for off-road, but still use them as an everyday on-road tire with confidence.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 03:52 PM
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Are your siped all the way across the tire, or just in the middle? I have heard that siping in the middle can help with the chipping problem.
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Steve, only the center section is siped while the edge blocks are left uncut. As you mention, I assume this is the help them maintain their integrity. As you can see by the pic, it's not completely precise, but that seems to be what they are aiming for.
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I found this a while back when I was researching siping bike tires.

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/sipe/

http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/grooved_tires/

I have one of these knives and it works well.
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Old December 21st, 2006, 10:46 PM
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Thanks for that mike... have you noticed any increased wear in your tires after siping?
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I haven't siped my truck tires. I am running on AT's at the moment, but I have siped bike tires and haven't noticed any change in wear.
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My MTR's are about 1/2 worn or a little more. Would you recommend siping them? I only have around 6 months left on them at best. But its pewkin snow here.
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