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Old April 26th, 2016, 07:17 PM
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what to do with a Series I

I have a Series I that I am probably going to buy from a friend. It is in excellent condition cosmetically and very good condition mechanically. The original 2 litre is a dog though, and, it stops like an old rover....

I know some of you have added disk brakes, new motors, and Salsbury rear axles, etc....

I am looking for ideas as to changing the motor and drivetrain, any one care to offer some suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
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I have a Series I that I am probably going to buy from a friend. It is in excellent condition cosmetically and very good condition mechanically. The original 2 litre is a dog though, and, it stops like an old rover....

I know some of you have added disk brakes, new motors, and Salsbury rear axles, etc....

I am looking for ideas as to changing the motor and drivetrain, any one care to offer some suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
I would sell it and buy a later Series. It'd be a shame to do that to an original Series I
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....I am looking for ideas as to changing the motor and drivetrain, any one care to offer some suggestions?
Chuck,

There is an article in Land Rover World April 2002 where Timm Cooper and Michael Slade took a Series 1 and put Disco and Range Rover axles under it and slapped a Chevy V8 in it. It is a very nice conversion. I have the article and can scan it if you want.

I would keep it original but if you decide to change the motor and drive train please keep me in mind. I am starting my Series 1 restoration soon and can use any extra parts I can find.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 07:59 PM
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Chuck although I drive a heavily modified Timm Cooper built series 1 I have to agree with Jimmy (maybe the first time ever)

if you have a very original S1 id consider keeping it that way and look for one that is more of a basket case to modify. You can PM me and i can send you a scanned copy of the LRO article on my truck as well if you'd like.
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Lets see some pics of the S1! What year/wheelbase is it?
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If the motor bothers you too much put a 2.25 petrol in it, and keep the 2L on the shelf for when you want to be a purist again.
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I wheeled with Slade and his S-I in Moab years ago- super cool rig. But these days, I would encourage keeping it orig as there are lots of cheap disposable Rovers to wheel/modify. Not too many originals left..
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I had a Series 1 with a 3.9/LT95 conversion and it was bad ass, the only truck I truly regret getting rid of. Honestly the stupidest thing I have ever done………that said, I would never do that conversion if I had an original S1.

If you want a truck with more juice scoop up a nice S3 and convert it. Keep that S1 original…….please.
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I can only dream about owning a Series I, but keeping it original or as original as possible would be my goal. Even if it takes machining and fabricating parts that are identical or near identical. There can't be that many parts anyways.

As for acceleration and stopping, I would be happy with 30-40hp and drum brakes. I wouldn't use the Series I for anything but local road cruising. Trips to the store, etc.

If you're dead set on changing the axles or drivetrain, I would keep the original frame at the very least. Galvanize that sucker.

If you need a daily or need to drive on the highway, take something else...
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Consider that LR has now sold all 25 of these to be restored $100k Series Is and there is a strong argument for preservation.

Land Rover to produce 'new' Series 1*
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It would be sad to see a nice Series 1 devalued by chopping it up into a Frankin Rover trail rig. Kind of like putting a bumper sticker on a Ferrari - but worse.
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PM me your address and I'll send someone to pick it up.

Echoing others...leave it be...it's just slightly more advanced than an old tractor and should really stay that way if it's remotely original.

...edit...oh, and it really should be pretty zippy under 40. My buddy with several AusinHealy-s ? says he's amazed how well my '53 drives.
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Rebuild on a 2L is not for the faint of heart or light of wallet. If the 2L is really sick (it could just need a tune up and decoke of the head and valve adjustment -- ie deferred maintenance) would run a merc diesel four cylinder like Ike did with his 80in. They are approaching free used and parts are readily available and they have ok power and good reliability. Best option is to keep the 2L if you can and in no event should you let it go even if you pull it.

The brakes can be made to work quite well. I would just fix them.

The other question is what SI? Is it an 80, 86, 88, 107, 109? All can be fitted with a 2.25 petrol and associated trans/t-case although finding a trans out of a S1 diesel with the mechanical linkage or making that work with what you have is not easy and I don't like the conversion on anything other than the 88 and 109.

Also, post some pics.
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I have to agree with everyone else. If it's original, then certainly it didn't survive unmolested for 60 years or so for someone to jack with it now. If you don't like it the way it is, sell it on and find one (like mine) that has already been bastardized. And then you can bastardize it some more without any guilt.
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I had overhauled a 2.0L IOE engine from a 1956 86 and it was surprizing peppy.

Don't under estimate the value of a fresh engine. I think its imporatnt to consider fresh engine performance vs how old and tired an engine is; before you decide to go to bigger engin and all the costly side effects from that option.

Years ago at a buddies shop, we dyno'd a series 2 with a 2.25 in it. Odo turned over at least once, and belived to be original engine and internals. 6 pulls and best peaked at 21 wheel HP.... IIRC first pull was 16 peak WHP.
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