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Old October 24th, 2013, 10:39 AM
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Upper Tailgate parts diagram

I can't find a parts diagram for any Series or Defender upper tailgate. I am looking specifically for part numbers for the LH prop rod, and the prop rod brackets that go on the inside of the door opening.
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Old October 24th, 2013, 12:05 PM
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I have those parts that I can sell. But I will want to sell the LH and RH as a set.
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Old October 24th, 2013, 12:11 PM
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The parts I have that I can sell are for a series truck. The mechanical arm that holds up the tailgate. Not the hydraulic version.
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Old October 24th, 2013, 12:27 PM
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The parts I have that I can sell are for a series truck. The mechanical arm that holds up the tailgate. Not the hydraulic version.
Wait!?

wtf...GO OUT AND PUT THOSE ON THAT CRAP 109 THAT'S STILL AT YOUR PLACE!!


Please...

You can have the back door then, eh?
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Old October 24th, 2013, 12:38 PM
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You can have the prop arms Keith. I do not have a good tailgate upper at this point. If I can find a good tailgate upper I will trade you that for the rear door.


So the prop arms are not available anymore. Sorry batman
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Old October 24th, 2013, 12:52 PM
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You can have the prop arms Keith. I do not have a good tailgate upper at this point. If I can find a good tailgate upper I will trade you that for the rear door.


So the prop arms are not available anymore. Sorry batman
Thanks Jimmy.

We'll find an upper door...I think I've got both tail gates (old & new) up here...


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Old October 24th, 2013, 12:54 PM
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That is what I meant. The upper door. These parts fasten to that. But I do not have one just now.
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Thanks Jeff, got it. Going gas.

------ Follow up post added October 24th, 2013 01:25 PM ------

The OE parts are NLA or crazy money. Like 45 pounds for the upper bracket! Fabricatin'.
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These are the parts I am talking about. Not sure Keith will even want them, unless he understood what I was offering.
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Well, if they are available...I do need the brackets that the prop rods prop on. The RH prop rod is easily come by new, and I do have one. It's the left one that nobody seems to have. The brackets that are mounted to the door I have as well. So, only really need the LH rod, and the mounts that go on the body.
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I just have the parts pictured. Nothing for the door opening.

I fabricated all the parts for a hydraulic setup a few months back from scratch with nothing to copy. It is not hard to figure out. You will get it done.
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Ya as quaint as the prop rods are, they are a pain in the neck, 'specially if you have your hands full. You don't want to have to set your case of Bowmore down in the wet or snow just to raise and prop open the tailgate.
Fortunately I already have struts ball studs and all that. Whack whack some angle stock, drill the holes, plate it, bolt it up...
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Bill, if those are what you want you guys go ahead.

I jumped in on Bill's request, and that's not right.

Jim, we'll figure it out.
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Naw, Keith, you have 'em. I am not really ever ever going to do the prop rod thing. I was actually hoping to get the part# for the genuine gas strut brackets to maybe save myself a little metal work time. Now that I see that they are also unobtanium, I'll go back to plan A.
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Parts to do the hydraulic version can be had at

liftsupportdepot.com

Check it out. Had to search my database to pass the information along.

------ Follow up post added October 24th, 2013 05:55 PM ------

I bought a few different ones to try

Think I settled on this one

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Be sure to show us what you end up using if you get it done with parts from that source. For the next guy to follow your path. I did not keep good records and it seems many are trying to do this conversion lately.
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Great idea.
I'd love it to if someone with a Poe unit can photograph all the various parts and upload them here.
Thanks
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The lift struts are apparently the same as the RRC tailgate. The ball studs are 10mm.
If you look in McMaster, there are several types of strut ends...plastic, metal, even stainless. They have struts made from stainless also. The ball stud plates are ina variety of shapes.

The OE upper tailgate bracket pictured above mounts on the hinge. It's prolly just a bent plate with holes for the ball stud and the mounting bolts. The lower body-side mount is less apparent. It would have to be a plate that has either a z bend or a spacer for the stud so it clears the door edge.

To figure out where to mount the lower, you would measure down from the upper ball stud to the compressed length of the strut.
Struts mount with the cylinder up and the rod pointing down.
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The locking mechanism looks very much like a variation on the manual locking mechanism on a garage door.

There must also be a pair of brackets fixed to the hardtop that the leaf hinges pivot on.
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