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Old September 30th, 2014, 06:41 PM
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Is there a ligitiment, rational reason the vin tag on a 109 SIIa would say "Rover 88" instead of "Rover 109"
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Old September 30th, 2014, 06:43 PM
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If it's on the VIN plate, the truck is not original. The VIN plate will say if it's a IIA...III. 88...109.

Checked the VIN in CalVIN

http://www.clifton.nl/calvin.html
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Old September 30th, 2014, 06:57 PM
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I can't open that site from my phone. Will check when I get home to decode.

I'm looking at a 109 but the 88 is throwing up some flags for me, I may be too cautious.

Will post once I've decoded later tonight
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Old September 30th, 2014, 06:59 PM
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for an 88....

http://www.landroverchassisplates.co.../S2A-88(1).JPG

The attachment is for a 109
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I can't open that site from my phone. Will check when I get home to decode.

I'm looking at a 109 but the 88 is throwing up some flags for me, I may be too cautious.

Will post once I've decoded later tonight
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for an 88.... http://www.landroverchassisplates.co.../S2A-88(1).JPG The attachment is for a 109
Except for the one on this 109 says 88
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what happens when someone with an 88 decides to convert to a 109?

another way of looking at it: what happens to the vin of a 90 that becomes a 110?

i doubt any these vins magically change along with the wheelbase.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 07:16 PM
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what happens when someone with an 88 decides to convert to a 109? another way of looking at it: what happens to the vin of a 90 that becomes a 110? i doubt any these vins magically change along with the wheelbase.
I would hope those are documented. Unfortunately, this one is not.
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what happens when someone with an 88 decides to convert to a 109?

another way of looking at it: what happens to the vin of a 90 that becomes a 110?

i doubt any these vins magically change along with the wheelbase.
You'll have documentation of the convertion and can notify the insurance company that you modified it.

I for one; won't (actually didn't) take that risk... not worth it

There are plenty of legit trucks out there.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 08:31 PM
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it decodes as a 52 series 1. the tag says "Rover 88". The truck is a 109. ugly.....
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What is stamped in the RF frame horn?

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i'll see if he'll snap a pic. unfortunately the truck isn't local.
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it decodes as a 52 series 1. the tag says "Rover 88". The truck is a 109. ugly.....
The VIN code on the VIN tag decodes as a S1, but the same tag says 88?

Am i understanding that right?
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The VIN code on the VIN tag decodes as a S1, but the same tag says 88? Am i understanding that right?

Yes. Vin code is a S1. Same tag says 88. Tag is installed on a 109.
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What is the truck titled as and what VIN # shows up on the title?
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What is the truck titled as and what VIN # shows up on the title?
Vin on title and tag match. Shows up as '63 Land.
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Old October 1st, 2014, 08:05 AM
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As Briggs suggests, ask him for the number stamped on the front frame horn. If it matches the title I don't think I'd be to worried about it.

Somebody could of easliy just put a VIN plate in the truck to make it appear Complete.......purley cosmetic.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 07:21 AM
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Everyone thanks for your help. He can find the vin on the chassis. Sounds like it may have been ground off. This one is outside my risk tolerance so I'm going to pass.
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Everyone thanks for your help. He can find the vin on the chassis. Sounds like it may have been ground off. This one is outside my risk tolerance so I'm going to pass.
So it's a Puma ?
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Sorry for the hijack, but I'm a little confused.

Let's say that a person has a NAS 90 and wants to convert it into a 110. He picks up a Marsland 110 frame, the appropriate parts, etc - all legitimately - and after a few weekends, he has a nice shiny 110 sitting on his driveway. The title is legitimate, but still says "Defender 90".

The insurance company does absolutely nothing with registrations or titles. The state won't retitle the vehicle because it's the same truck. The frame has no VIN. So the owner still has...a Defender 90.

So how is, potentially, this truck any different if the PO basically took an 88 and turned it into a 109? Is it the lack of documentation (perhaps due to the seller being a second or tertiary owner?)
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Sounds like you did the right thing.

Does the guy know where to find the Vin number?
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