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Old September 5th, 2006, 12:08 PM
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Series coiler to power steering conv?

Long shot I know, but has anyone had success converting a Series Coiler to PS? My arms and chest are getting bigger wheeling it as is.
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Serveral people have done a conversion using Scout II box. My series had a hydraulic pump for a plow so getting a P/S pump would not be anymore difficult.
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The problems come in the fact that it is a coil conversion and there is much less room up front because of the shock towers. On a leafer it's easy.
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Long shot I know, but has anyone had success converting a Series Coiler to PS? My arms and chest are getting bigger wheeling it as is.
I came close. I don't know what engine you have but I converted a 1990 Defender to P.S. with the 2.5 N.A. Diesel. If you are handy, its not too bad but I don't know if there are going to be frame differences or anything else on your coiler conversion. I bought a 94 P.S. system used from Rover Club House that had the pump, box and hoses for around $400. Box bolts right up, the bracket for the pump and a new belt had to be sourced. I ended up getting it all done, and then selling the old engine so it was all a waste for me, other than I had the box ready to go for the TDi conversion. Basically, if you can fab a bracket for the PS pump, you can use all the parts from any NAS truck. I hope that helps a little.
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You can run the add on PS ram system easily. Lots of our coil customers have done that, but it isn't the best for off road. You can also run the RR PS box without much issue, but it does require frame mods on the front.
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Old September 5th, 2006, 01:19 PM
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How extensive are the frame mods? Just involving making brackets or is it more akin to moving the front crossmember.


The truck gets wheeled extensively.
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Check out Mike Slade's super crew cab or his 80in (I think the 80in runs scout II as well). Timm C's old series I also ran scout II but it was a leafer (but that should not matter.)

Given where the box is it seems to me you would have to mod the front cross member on a series for a RRC box. A scout II mounts to the outside of the frame so it should work better.
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Thanks, I emailed Mike directly. The spot where setups that bolt to the outside of the frame is crowded by the presence of the shock tower bracing and the panhard rod mounts on a coil chassis.
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Thanks, I emailed Mike directly. The spot where setups that bolt to the outside of the frame is crowded by the presence of the shock tower bracing and the panhard rod mounts on a coil chassis.
How hard would it be to just move the parts that interfere?
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Here is a pic of the RR box in place on a SIIA coiler.

you have to move the front cross member forward, or make a new one (better) and do some minor. Luckily in a SIII you could likely adapt a Defender steering column to get the right input for the box.
Its welding, but it isn't that bad, due to the steering column run the RR box is easier on a coiler than the Scout/ Saginaw.

Kevin, Here is a shot of your 88 when we started on it so many years ago.
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Old September 5th, 2006, 03:42 PM
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She's come a long way. Rechristened "The Goat" in her 2nd coming. 1st pic when I bought it. 2nd pic underside was rough, brakes frightening.
Back better than ever. http://www.jamilabbasy.com/galleries...5w3908_std.jpg
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Kev,


there are a bunch of boxes that will work in front of the crossmember from Ford and Toyota. Or you can use the Defender /RRC / Disco box inside the frame (with some frame modification,major)

while your at it you might as well throw the V8 in (makes a great bracket for the PS pump)
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The frame mods for a RR box are dead easy. Kevin, if you want us to change the front crossmember and insert the sleeves for the RR box it takes about 4 hours. Then you can finish up the install if the welding puts you off.
"Been there... done that" with the Toyota, Saginaw and other boxes. The RR unit is the easiest to install when you consider all factors.
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I'd let'em have at it Kev. I can't keep up that kind of pace.
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How about the Hydro ram setup? Is that ok for street use also?
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Then I'd still have the leaky LR gearbox and relay.
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Kev, somewhat related.

I had lovey fill the steering box and relay on the Soiler with CV grease (yup that was challenging and I didn't even get near it) and no more leaky. Plus seems to improve the steering 10 fold.

Was looking in the parking lot yesterday and out of 11 trucks with PS only 2 didn't leak.....

the Swamp Slut ( brand new steering box) and a 1985 Toyota 4 Runner (IFS box conversion with an original '87 box)
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Kev, somewhat related.

I had lovey fill the steering box and relay on the Soiler with CV grease (yup that was challenging and I didn't even get near it) and no more leaky. Plus seems to improve the steering 10 fold.
Big + one on that.
We stopped using gear oil in Series steering boxes years ago.
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if only I could post a picture of lovey under the bonnet covered in CV grease ........she'd kill me dead, or worse....... quit
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Kevin - i know this doesn't relate to your question but I gotta ask. Is that powder coating on your alloys? Looks sharp.
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