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Old April 7th, 2012, 01:20 PM
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Looking at a 2a.. Tips on what to look for?

I asked this over on the RN forum too.... just looking for more knowledge so when I go up there I can make my decision based more on logic, rather than emotion.


So I'm going up to Maine to look at a rover, and perhaps some of you might know the one I'm talking about and could share your thoughts , tips etc..

It's the second one down on this page: (the red one)
http://www.dap-inc.com/used/index.shtml

Has anyone gone and looked at it? Apparently it spent "most" of it's life in Texas.. The color, age, options, it's really what I've been looking for for a while, and I finally have time to go check it out. This will be a weekend vehicle, will be in a garage, and i'm not afraid of taking rovers apart. (NJ D-90 owner for 14 yrs...)

I know the common areas to scrutinize, frame/bulkhead rust, I'm going to drive it a bit too of course. Any tips here when looking to buy a series rover? Price haggling points?

What are warning signs that would make you say "no" to a series you were thinking of buying? At around $5k price point.

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Old April 7th, 2012, 01:33 PM
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At $5k, mot much to say no to. I paid 2500 for a non runner (minor) with worse bodywork and no deluxe top

Looks pretty straight and original

Best you can do is take a screw driver and poke around for rust

Bulkhead is easy to check along with door pillars and footwells

I'd buy it if it was in Texas based on price and pics alone

And it looks very similar to The first series I test drove 15 years ago. If it spent anytime in north Texas around Whitesboro/lake Texoma that's it. That one had some minor electrical/distributor issues but nothing un expected but iirc it was a '64
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Old April 7th, 2012, 02:10 PM
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Looks pretty nice to me. I don't recognize that carb and the wiring (at least fuses) doesn't look stock. Also uncommon to see a bugeye with the deluxe hood and tropical top! Good luck with it, hope its as nice as it looks.

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Old April 7th, 2012, 03:43 PM
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Sorry was looking at it on my phone... that is a zenith carb.

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Old April 7th, 2012, 04:21 PM
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Thanks for the pointers guys..

I'm going to crawl all over the thing and check for issues, of course rusty bulkhead and frame being the biggies. The guy said it spent most of its life in Texas, but he also said that if I was going to do any towing or seriously loading the bed the rear crossmember would have to be replaced. I'm not planning on any towing, so hopefully it's not too bad.

I really just want a weekend car, summer project, im going to keep it stock, upgrade for driveability and originality..

Thanks again for any insight here, keep it comin..


Hoepfully I arrive back in NJ with a title for a 1969 rover!

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Old April 7th, 2012, 04:26 PM
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Do it

That rig has a lot of string points

Any car in that price range is going to need something - but that's half the fun of old Rovers

And rear x-member replacement is not a huge obstacle to over come
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Old April 7th, 2012, 04:26 PM
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Looks pretty good for the price. $4Kish would be about my top dollar, but $5K isn't out of sight. Bottoms of the doors can rust out pretty bad too. If it's been sitting a while, the water pump will likely need some attention, but that's not a deal-breaker.
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Looks interesting. Nothing is unfixable on a series just takes time & money.
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Looks cool if you like the bugeye thing, has a bunch cool parts on it. It has a nice stance and that visor is just RETRO cool. I just picked up a 64 109 that was sinking in the Alaskan Tundra and found two red 88s out in the woods as well. I know im along ways away but theres tons of rust freee.. parts up here if you get to the point you need them.

Have fun crawling around that cool rover keep us posted.

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It's mine!! Details to come
Thanks guys.
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Congrats, Steve. You should also try to bring the yellow 1967 Series IIB Forward Control back to life!
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Way to go

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You should also try to bring the yellow 1967 Series IIB Forward Control back to life!
Where's that sprung from

Found it! Now that would be a project... Tdi powered.

Get the 101, they're monsters very good price too
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Way to go

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Where's that sprung from
Open his link in the first post. It's a classic - needs quite a bit of work.
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Overall I'm very happy. Only a few critical things need to be done (at this time) most of it is little stuff. The owner was a really nice guy, a Rover enthusiast for a long time and seemed to really care about the rig, he kept it under a porta garage tarp/framework thingy.
I got lucky here so far!!!

Yeah I'd love to grab the 67 IIb FC.. but yeah, back to reality.. One is enough for me!! Looking at that list, I got the best one!!!


Allright, here's the good the bad and the ugly about this 69 bugeye.
The GOOD:
-Chassis was rust free almost 100%, outriggers, front horns, crossmembers. All looked and tap tap tap tested great.
-The guy threw in a brand new still wrapped in packaging rear crossmember from AB.
-Body panels all straight.
-All doors almost rust free.
-5 brand new looking Dunlop tires.
-Started right up.
-Clutch and brakes felt and worked well. No pulling when braking, no fluid leaking from clutch master.
-Tropical Roof, deluxe bonnet, visor, faded paint. Ths rig looks really cool, like Ed said, it has "that" stance.
-The guy had all the priginal paperwork, dealer bookelts, Heritage cert, options card (yes, the trop top was a specified option!)
-Gas tank was stripped, dipped, sealed etc..
-Warn locking hubs.
-Coolant looked bright green and was oil free.

The BAD:
-Rear crossmember is basically three peices, driver side, center, passenger side.
-Footwells are getting bad, there are holes in areas.
-Corrosiion sperading to the bulkhead door pillars.
-Driverside front swivel ball has some chips, seal is leaking.
-Yellow lever wouldn't pop back up after jogging the red back and forth, had to pull it up.
-Black smoke from the exhaust pipe at idle.
-Gauges are dead except speedo which is dancing.
-Heater blew no heat whatsoever.

The UGLY:
-The paint looks like it was dipped in paint remover, then immediately painted over, then sanded down, then brushed on, then finger painted over, then dipped in remover again. Then frozen in time. Good from a distance, or good in a really fuzzy picture. Im dying to compound this thing and see what happens.
-The driverside wingtop has the back section cut out (to get to clutch master I guess) and is hanging on barely.
-Carb is painted black.
-New wiring block on firewall. there are two now, gotta trace it all out.
-Window seals are gone all over.
-Tons of slop in the throttle linkage.
-Random rusting brackets bolted on here and there.


So there ya have it.. I bring it home in a few weeks. I've got to get the gauges operating and the black smoke at idle sorted. Take the slop out of the throttle linkage. A general clean up, compound the body, see what the paint really looks like.

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Congrats! Your bad list doesn't seem too terrible. What heater does it have? Is the fan coming on?

I haven't ever had the zenith carb other than on a shelf but your solution there might be to swap it out for something different. Many people I know have had great success with the Rochester carb. TAW has a great write up about the swap on her page. I ran a weber 2bbl with pierce manifold on mine before I went crazy and started my current project. I loved the way it worked.

It's not too difficult to install a new harness and might be easier that trying to sort out a modified or homemade one.
Keep us posted and congrats again.

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Ill definitely keep you all posted as I eventually get her to NJ...

here she is!

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Congrats! Love poppy red

I like it's patina but a fresh coat of poppy is one of my favorites
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Steve just saw your gallery post with your "new" truck - looks great!!! Congrats again.
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Thanks Josh..!

We made the journey relatively easily. Had to add water to the overflow tank, and the engine was running cool from that point on. (And it was almost 90 degrees) Had to disassemble/clean the oil pressure switch and add oil to the engine, and the oil pressure light stayed off from that point on. Should have added fluid to the clutch, didn't in time, and was grinding into first for the second half the journey.. GPS led us straight through Bostom at night, that was a nightmare. . .

BUT we got lucky with amazing weather (got it home and garaged just in time for this weeks non-stop rain) we lucked out with a hotel room right outside of Boston on BU's graduation weekend. I got lucky that my GF volunteered to go on the trip (and seemed to love it) And most importantly, the relatively unknown rover trucked us through almost 500 miles in two days. We left Maine at 8am Sat and arrived in NJ at 10pm Sunday.

A great first outing for me in a Series, we're looking forward to the summer!!!
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Nice looking truck... looks like my trucks older brother.
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