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Old March 5th, 2015, 01:59 PM
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Any chance the PO switch the front/real coils?

Looking at the stance of my 109 coiler the nose is definitely higher than the rear. Is it physically possible that the PO inadvertently swapped the front and rear suspension coils during the conversion to the Designa chassis? I know the coils are different sizes and with other things I have found I would not be surprised that he did this.
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Old March 5th, 2015, 02:01 PM
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It depends if they use 6" or 7" springs in the back. More likely it just needs heavier rear springs. Are there any markings on the springs?
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Old March 5th, 2015, 02:12 PM
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No, the springs don't have any markings. Probably need to just replace them along with the shocks.

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It depends if they use 6" or 7" springs in the back. More likely it just needs heavier rear springs. Are there any markings on the springs?
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Old March 5th, 2015, 02:18 PM
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Problem is you really need to figure out what is in there and measure up how they are sitting to be able to choose springs that will suit what you need. Otherwise you will be buying and swapping a lot of springs.
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Old March 5th, 2015, 02:21 PM
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110s run wider springs in the back, so if you springs are the same width as the front that might be the problem.
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Old March 5th, 2015, 02:33 PM
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110s run wider springs in the back, so if you springs are the same width as the front that might be the problem.
It is not a 110 though... It is a 109 on a custom chassis.... One "assumes" it uses 110 spring mounts, but never assume.

Anywho. Takes some photos of the springs. Measure the outside diameter of the springs and measure the height of the springs when parked on a flat surface. With that info, advice can be offered.
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Thanks guys. I take them off and measure to see what is really going on.
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Thanks guys. I take them off and measure to see what is really going on.
Make sure you measure height on the truck first. You need that to figure out weights. Being a non-standard build, you need as much information as possible.
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Will do. Thanks again.

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Make sure you measure height on the truck first. You need that to figure out weights. Being a non-standard build, you need as much information as possible.
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You don't have to remove anything to measure. Just stick a tape measure in and measure the diameter. It will be obvious if they are not the same size.

Now, if you like the way it rides right now, just get some spacers for the front and be done with it!
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Gotcha, understand, thanks!

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You don't have to remove anything to measure. Just stick a tape measure in and measure the diameter. It will be obvious if they are not the same size.

Now, if you like the way it rides right now, just get some spacers for the front and be done with it!
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Seems easy enough of a fix. I bet the rears are either shot or the wrong spec. A picture and measure the width of the coils and also measure axle spring perch to frame spring perch and we can get a close guess to get her back to a stock stance.

------ Follow up post added March 6th, 2015 02:00 AM ------

Some steel wheels 5.5" with 235 85 r16 or 7.50 16 tires would look great.
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seems easy enough of a fix. I bet the rears are either shot or the wrong spec. A picture and measure the width of the coils and also measure axle spring perch to frame spring perch and we can get a close guess to get her back to a stock stance. ------ follow up post added march 6th, 2015 02:00 am ------ some steel wheels 5.5" with 235 85 r16 or 7.50 16 tires would look great.
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What year model is your truck? I have never seen a 110 CSW with a tropical roof, nor a cream colored steeing wheel and a split front window?

Belay that...just saw your sig! Uber is an understatement me thinks...
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Jonesy,

I am getting ready to dial up the uber with when I ditch the 2.25l for a 3.9l/R380/LT230 here in the near term.

Maybe I need to update my sig block to SIIa 109.5 when it is complete. Pretty soon I will have 3 different decades of parts on this thing.


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What year model is your truck? I have never seen a 110 CSW with a tropical roof, nor a cream colored steeing wheel and a split front window?

Belay that...just saw your sig! Uber is an understatement me thinks...
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I should have done more research.

The front springs are 6"

The rear springs are 7"

Looks like I need heavier duty springs on the rears.

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Front shocks are upside down.
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6.5 coils on the rear springs? Not sure what those are.
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No, the rears are 7 inches.

Good catch on the fronts being upside down.

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6.5 coils on the rear springs? Not sure what those are.
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No, I'm talk about the number of coil turns, which looks to be 6.5. Can't be genuine springs, AFAICT.
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